Is Jesus really God and how can that be?
by Tony Warren
Actually, believing in the deity of Jesus Christ is a fundamental part of being a true Christian. For if Christ was just a man, or even a super man, then we are of all men most foolish to be looking to Him to be the Saviour. For there is no man who could have had every single sin of every Child of God laid upon Him, carried them to the cross, and suffered death as the wages for those sins, and be risen up from that death, free from that debt of sin. There is no super man who could purge man from his sins as required, it would take a God. And there is only one Jehovah God, who qualifies! In fact, the whole idea of Christ being just a man or lesser god, makes the Christian belief ridiculous.
- "Ye are My witnesses, saith the Lord, and My servant whom I have Chosen: that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I AM He: before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.
- I, even I, AM the Lord; and beside Me, There is No Saviour."
That word translated Lord there is in the Hebrew [yehovah] Jehovah. There is no god before who is the Saviour, and no god after. Jehovah God is the only possible Saviour. No man, nor superman, could accomplish the task of being burdened with all our sins, judged for them, and be resurrected without them. Even a non-Christians can understand the bankruptcy of any other idea. For when we actually stop to think about it seriously, it's quite ludicrous! Unless this man was the very revelation of God (the only one able to become sin for us, and withstand the judgment thereof), we have no Saviour! And that is exactly what God said in Isaiah chapter 43 verse 11. Who could accomplish such a feat to be a saviour? The answer in all reasonableness is, no one but Jehovah God is the Saviour.
Which brings us to the question, "how then was He God, and yet judged of God for our sins?" The answer is found in God's Word of promise to His people of a Saviour, and yet there being none that could Save! If the Word of promise was to stand and be kept lawfully, then God had to of His own arm, bring Salvation. He Himself would have to be the Saviour. For no one else could! If we put our hope in man for Salvation, we hope in vain. It is the Lord God Himself who is our hope and will set us free. As it is written, only He can Save.
- "Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
- His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
- Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
- Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever:
- Which executeth judgment for the oppressed: which giveth food to the hungry. The LORD looseth the prisoners:
- The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:"
That word Lord there again is Jehovah. He made Heaven and earth and all that therein is. Scripture says Christ made Heaven and earth and all that therein is (John 1:3). There is no contradiction, for Christ is Jehovah God. There is one God, but God reveals aspects of Himself in three. In three, the purpose and will of God is worked out for man. God manifested as the Father, God manifested as the Son, and God manifested as the Holy Spirit! The Father shows God revealed in all his Omnipotent Glory, Might and Majesty, while the Son shows God revealed in the revelation of the Word, in Promise, in Judgment, in Salvation, in mercy, and and in Sacrifice. And the Holy Spirit is God revealed to man in His omnipresence to perform His will throughout the earth and in men. This is one God, and one Power, not three! God has made it clear "from the very beginning" about this three in the one Godhead!
- "And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness..."
In the Hebrew text this is plural, not singular. God is making it very clear that there is one God, and yet that one God works out His will in man in three. All throughout scripture we see this same picture of one God working out His Purpose and will on earth, in three.
- "Come ye near unto Me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there AM I, and now the Lord God, and His Spirit, hath sent Me."
There we see God give us the illustration again. Three, from the very foundation of the world, from the time that the beginning was, there was the great I am, and the Lord God, and His Holy Spirit. Very concise, very clear, very unambiguous language showing us the three in the Godhead. It's just one more example (of many) of the way God's Word is consistent and in scriptural harmony throughout. Even as He said "before Him there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Him". You see, contrary to what some cults claim about multiple gods, God Himself denies it saying there is "ONE" God in heaven. But His purpose for man is revealed in "three."
With all these facts, still there are some misguided souls who insist, "No that's not true, Christ and His Spirit weren't there in the beginning with God, and He didn't create heaven and earth." But that simply is denying the obvious. Since God refutes that. Everywhere the scriptures tell the very same story of the Godhead being revealed in three. These are not isolated or ambiguous verses. Jesus Christ was fully God, who was made of no reputation by leaving the Glory He had with the father, and was revealed in flesh, in the likeness of man, in order to be the Savior that only God could be.
- "..For in Him dwelleth All the Fullness of the Godhead Bodily!"
How could God make that statement if it was not true? Of course, He couldn't and wouldn't. It is true! In Christ dwells all the Fulness of God, and yet He left His Glory in Heaven, abased Himself to become flesh and suffer for His People as man. This is the mystery of God that we can only grasp at ways to fully understand. Even though God plainly tells us..
1st John 5:7
- "For there are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word, and the Holy Ghost; And these Three are One!
These three are One! There is One God, manifesting Himself in three. God, the Father, God the Holy Spirit, and God, the Word. The Word is a synonym for Christ. He is God's Word of Salvation come to fulfillment! The Promised Word of God revealed in the form of man! Man's word means nothing, but God's Word is sure, righteous, dependable, and the Law! And His Word declared that He was the Saviour! Therefore, He became flesh to fulfill that Word. The same Word that created heaven and earth and all that was therein became flesh! We read,
- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word Was God."
Here is understanding. The Word was not only with God, but the Word "was God!" Which of course is totally consistent with everything else we read. He was with Jehovah God, who created all things, and He was Jehovah God. If there is only one God, and you are with that God, and you are God, then it would be tortuous of scripture to claim that this is not that God.
- "The same was in the Beginning with God.
The two are one God. The word was there at the beginning with God because it was God. He did not come into existence 2000 years ago when the Word was made flesh, He's been the Word of God from the beginning. He was made flesh that the promise of God to Abraham might come to fruition. The Word in the flesh!
- "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,"
And this could only be done because the Word was God. As of course we read in verse 3 of John 1:
- "All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made."
Not only from the beginning was the Word with God, and "was God", but as God, the Word was the creator of all (not some) things, And there is nothing that was made that was made by anyone but Him. All was made by the Word of God. It doesn't get much clearer than this. And despite some religious groups claims to the contrary, it doesn't take a Ph.d, or doctorate in Greek and Hebrew to understand what is being said. As Creator, He had to be Jehovah God.
- "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
- And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good".
- "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Jehovah God made the earth and the heavens,"
- "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear".
God Spake, and it was so. The Word of God created Heaven and earth. The very same Word of God John chapter one says Created all things and was made flesh. If that doesn't make Jesus God in man's eyes, nothing will! He was at the beginning, He was with God, He was God, and He created all things. The Word of God framed the worlds, and scripture says that it is by faith that we understand this. That is the key. And John continues in verse 14:
- "and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of Grace and Truth."
That which was with God from the beginning, and indeed was God and created all things, was "made Flesh and dwelt among men" as the only begotten of the Father. God, come to earth in the form of a man (begotten of God) in order to fulfill "His Word" of promise to be the Saviour. This is the cornerstone of true Christianity. A Saviour who is actually powerful enough to Save. God, which is thee only Saviour who could possibly Save us.
Sadly, there is debate from some quarters about this chapter, and it is the source of controversy, albeit unjustifiably. There is this train of thought by a certain group that "The Word" there is not really talking about Jesus Christ until verse 14. This group is fond of saying, "first came the spoken word, then the written word, then the living word which is Christ." They claim we've read Jesus into this, and that He is not mentioned until verse 14- "..the word was made flesh". May I say quite frankly and without hesitation, this idea is "Preposterous, irrational, illogical, and self serving." The whole context and structure of the passage is both clear and concise. The preceding verse makes that abundantly clear. It is tortuous of scripture to try and make "The Word" mean anything but Christ there.
- "He was in the World, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.
- He came unto His own, and His own Received Him not.
- But as many as Received Him to them gave He power to become the Sons of God, even to them which believe on His name:
Now why would anyone think this is not talking about Jesus? I.e., it says "as many as Believed on His name?" This is obviously Jesus! Why would anyone think the Word is God here and not Jesus? And then in verse 14 without so much as a pause we are to believe it starts talking about some OTHER Word, which is not God but Jesus? It is almost beyond comprehension, except in the honest understanding of what indoctrination is, and the will of man to rationalize away anything which they don't choose to believe! Some people believe whatever they want, and refuse to be confused by the facts. But honestly, the facts indeed speak for themselves. It's not a question of if it says this, it's a question of man hearing what it says!
Another method some use to try and chip away at the Authority of the Word, is to attempt to convince people that John 1:1 was a mistranslation (sound familiar), and that it should read "the Word was with Divine and the Word was Divine". They key on the Greek Words, God [theos], and [logos], and claim it's not really God or Word and should be translated divine or some other non-deity. When one is indoctrinated, anything can be used in order not to receive what is actually written, because all that's required is an excuse. Let us simply test this theory of it not being God, by the context of the word itself.
- "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with divine, and the word was divine. The same was in the beginning with divine. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made."
..Sure, sounds like divine is God doesn't it? Sure sounds like divine created all things doesn't it? Try as we may, we cannot force the scriptures to say something that they do not say, or to not say something which they say. That's called adding and taking away from the Word of God, and is condemned of God. That Greek word there [theos] is translated God over 900 times with no problem, yet because of their indoctrination in the view that Jesus is not God, they arbitrarily decide to change it here in order to facilitate the acceptance of their doctrines. Again, let's substitute the word logos.
- "In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with Divine, and the Logos was Divine. The same was in the beginning with Divine. All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made."
Again, sure sounds like the logos is God, doesn't it? Else God isn't the Creator, is He? Generally, whenever man doesn't want to receive the Word of God, it inevitably becomes a "translation problem" or a case where scripture doesn't really mean what it actually says. Such is always the case with these who don't want to receive the truth of scripture. I guess that's why God calls it false, because these don't follow the truth of the Word. They want to lead the Word rather than follow it! One false gospel does it one way, and another false gospel does it another way, but it always boils down to changing God's Word to suit their own traditions and beliefs (doctrines of men). As anyone can see from reading the content in context, their changes actually change nothing.
Another tactic is to claim that it really should be translated [A] God, not GOD. That also is ridiculous, for there is no article "A" in the Holy Canon there, and no justifiable rationalization for adding one there. It's simply another attempt to justify changing God's Word to conform to their own. They simply do not have the understanding that if Jesus is not God in their gospel, then they have no Saviour! For Besides God (says God), There is no Saviour! When we look carefully at this verse, even in the literal Greek, here is what it says there, word for word (as best I can type it using an english keyboard)!
en' arche en ho logos kai ho logos en theos kai theos en ho logos
And here is the word for word interlinear rendering of what the Greek means.
en' arche en ho logos kai ho logos en in beginning was the word and the word was theos kai theos en ho logos God and God was the Word
All the rationalization known to man is not going to change what God has written in His Holy Canon. Even when trying to supplant God's Word with their own private interpretations, the truth shines through. These aren't obscure words which we can't be sure what the meaning is, they are words used liberally throughout scripture, and their meanings common knowledge.
Another point for us to wisely consider is that the very fact that God was the Father of Jesus, assures us that the Son must be God. There was no earthly father, and so the Son cannot be a man. He must of necessity be a God-Man! We need to understand, Mary only provided flesh, "everything else" was God in this Woman! Think about that carefully and intelligently! No sin passed on to Christ, he took on only the flesh and none of the sin in it. Literally, it was God in the Flesh. The God Man! Seed via Jehovah God, not some other lessor god who some surmise was in heaven.
- "now the birth of Jesus was on this wise: when as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with Child of the Holy Ghost."
God, the Word, made Flesh by the Holy Spirit. If God wanted a good man, He could have used John the baptist, but by "The Word of the Law", Salvation requires Jehovah be our Saviour, for no man could carry the load or work of the Cross. A good man (even if we could find such a person, which is impossible) at best could keep himself out of Hell. He could never take on the sins of the world and pay for those sins, and be raised up His body not seeing corruption, and free from Sin. Which is why it Had to be God, the Saviour! No one else qualifies. No mortal man could do it, and yet it was man who had sinned in the flesh, and so by law it had to be man to pay the price of His sin in the Flesh. How could flesh be guilty, pay the price, and live? The only answer is, by God! His own arm would bring Salvation. He Himself would have to be the Saviour of man. He would have to Come down from heaven and deliver us from the Death that hung over us.
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
- Who, Being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
- But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Himself the Form of a servant, and was made in the Likeness of Men:
- And being found in fashion as a Man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
- Wherefore God hath also highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name."
Here we have the Testimony of God saying that Jesus was in the form of God, and being equal to God (Only possible if He WAS God) thought it not robbery to make Himself of no renown and be "Made in the Likeness of man" that He could suffer the death of the cross. Christ in the form of God, making Himself in the form of man, in order to be the promised Saviour of man. And in order to do that, He took on the flesh through Mary. And this is why He is called the Son of God. Because he is God, through seed in Mary revealed in the form of man to be the Saviour of the world.
..He that hath an ear, let him hear.
The fact is, with a little study in the scriptures (and the Holy Spirit) it's very easy to see that Jesus is God. That is to say, if we believe the scriptures themselves and not choose to ignore what they say! For example, God says that He is the First and the Last. Jesus being God, also confirms that in Revelation chapter 1 verse 17 and 18, saying that He is the First and the Last, He is He that liveth and was dead, and is alive forevermore. Total consistency because Jesus is God. God says,
- "..I the LORD, the first and the last; I AM He.
- "saying, I AM Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last..."
And when John heard that voice and turned to see who was speaking to him, who did he see? ..He saw Christ in the Midst of the Candlesticks speaking to Him saying, He was alive and was dead and is alive for evermore. This is Jesus Christ the Alpha and Omega, the First and the last. i.e., He is God! There can only be one first and last. If Jehovah God says He is, and Christ says He is, then it's obvious if scripture be true, Jesus is God. No real mystery, because without Christ being God and suffering death for us, there would be no Savior. That is exactly what was Promised in God's Word, and that is exactly what we got. ..the Word made flesh! And we, as the true Church, the Chosen, are the witnesses for we believe that He is our Saviour.
- "Ye are My witnesses, saith the Lord, and My servant whom I have Chosen: that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He: before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.
- I, even I AM the Lord; and beside Me, There is No Saviour!"
Reference Philippians 2:6 where Jesus was in the Form of God, and was made in the Likeness of man? And here God tells us there was no God formed before Him, neither shall there be after Him. So all those people talking about some other god in heaven are denying the Word which declares there is no other God formed there that created heaven and earth, neither shall be. There is One God, and Jesus is all the Fullness of the godhead bodily. When we are at peace with the Word, there is no fighting or warfare with it. We simply receive that it says, "other than Jehovah God, there is no Saviour!" Shall we turn around and retort, "NO, Your wrong God, Jesus Christ who is "NOT" you, is our Saviour?" God Forbid! But that is exactly what some people do. The question is, who is right? ..God or man?
- "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged".
The fact is (as demonstrated in Isaiah 43:10-11) if God is not our Saviour, then we have NO Saviour! We are in a gospel where the saviour is someone else who cannot Save. Jesus and God are One! When we see Jesus, we see God revealed.
- "...he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father and how sayest thou then, shew us the Father?"
Good question! Very Good Question! They say show us the Father, and Jesus says, when you see Me, you see the Father! Now if Jesus wasn't God, the Father, that would be a "blasphemous" statement. In fact, the Jews of the day understood that (even though many today don't really want to), as they took up stones to stone Him for saying that! ..They Understood what many today refuse to receive.
- "I and My Father are One!
- Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
- Jesus answered them, many good works have I shewed you from My father; for which of those works do ye stone Me?
- The Jews answered Him, saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that Thou, being a man, makest Thyself God."
These people here were just like many churches today. They appear very Sincere, but they are sincerely wrong! They understood that Jesus was saying that He was God the father, but what they didn't understand (as many today don't) is that Jesus was indeed God! Therefore, there was no Blasphemy! They thought He was a mere man, perhaps a prophet at the most. But they were wrong. They were men of their convictions, but what was their conviction worth? ..Nothing! The same thing it's worth today if it's not founded upon the Word of God. Did not Jesus say many would say to Him in that day, "Lord, Lord, didn't we do many great works in Thy name?" and He would say, "depart from Me ye who work iniquity.." You see, they may have sincerely thought they were Children of God, but they will be sincerely wrong. They hadn't kept God's Word, and so missed the whole point! Just as these who wanted to stone Jesus had! They read the scriptures, but they hadn't Heard them. They didn't Receive the Love of Truth.
We need to understand that many have a form of Godliness, but deny the Power thereof. When we deny the Word, we deny the Spirit! For the Spirit of God works with the Word! That's why these people sought to Stone Jesus! The Word was just words to them. It had no power! These people had no justification even from the scriptures, but they sought to stone Christ, choosing to "ignore" the body of evidence of both the scriptures and his Work. Would many today stone Him because He makes himself the Great "I AM?" ..yes, many would! When they deny that He is, do they deny the Word and the Spirit of Truth?
- "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My Day: and he saw it and was glad.
- then said the Jews unto Him, thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
- Jesus said unto them, Verily Verily, I say unto you Before Abraham was, I AM!
- then took they up stones to cast at Him.."
Again, CLEARLY, they Knew and they understood He was saying He was God! Unlike many today, they didn't pretend they didn't know what He was saying. But like many today, they thought that He was blaspheming, saying I AM! But the fact is, He was God! He was Before Abraham was, and He was the Great "I AM!" Some simply do not understand these things because they are Spiritually discerned. Did not God say to Moses...
- "..thus shalt thou say unto the Children of Israel, I AM hath sent Me unto you."
This is one of the names of God. God is the Great I AM and that is why Jesus could say "Before Abraham was, I AM!" Because He is God! How indeed could He be before Abraham was, "unless" He was God?
- "As soon then as He had said unto them, I AM they went backward and fell to the ground."
Does God tell us this simply to indicate that they just happened to stumble just as Jesus was saying this? God Forbid! They fell to the Ground to illustrate the great "I AM" was speaking, and His Word was with Power! Their judgment awaited. As the stones of the Temple they would be cast down at the Word of God. By all rights fire from Heaven should have come down to consume them as He spoke, but that couldn't happen because of the will and purpose of God to go to the Cross. Christ had to go to the Cross willingly with them and be crucified for His People. But they went backward signifying their Judgment at His Word! He is the Great I AM and his Word is with Power and Authority! God has said it in a hundred different ways. But like the Scribes and Pharisees many do not want to hear it! It's certainly not that scripture doesn't make it clear Jesus was God (even though some say it doesn't), it's that some don't want to receive what God says, nor do they have the Spirit which would guide them into the truth of it, which is given by Grace of God.
- "But unto the Son He saith, Thy Throne O God, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of Thy kingdom."
Note that this verse clearly says the Son (Jesus) is God [theos] and the Throne of His kingdom everlasting! How do you have two Kings ruling in one Kingdom of God. God says He alone is God and there shall be no other God after him or before Him. He says he is the First and last. He says His kingdom is forever. Do we have two forever Kingdoms ruled by two separate Gods? No, there is One Kingdom and One Ruler God.
But you cannot force anyone to believe this truth no matter how clear it is written. The mind will rationalize away absolutely anything which it wants. We can only bear witness to the testimony of the truth of scripture.
- "Looking for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of the Great God and our Saviour, Jesus Christ."
Consistently following God's declaration that besides him, there is no Saviour! Those claiming they have a Saviour that isn't God, simply are deluding themselves. If they have a Saviour who is not God, then they have a saviour which Cannot Save! Again,
- "...and there is no God else beside Me; a just God and Saviour; there is None Beside Me!"
- "Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt and thou shalt know no God but Me: For there is No Saviour besides Me!"
We shall know no God but Him, and yet some consistently claim that there is another god in heaven from the beginning who created all things, who is not Him. they simply will not receive the witness of Truth of scripture. Nevertheless, it stands for God's people a testimony of righteousness. Hosea 11:1
- "When Israel was a child, then I loved Him, and called My Son out of Egypt."
- "When he arose, he took the young Child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:
- and was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called My Son."
The Son Israel is Christ, and all in him shall be Saved! Salvation is of Israel! He is "thee" seed to whom the promises were made. Not as to many, but as to ONE. All we have to do is follow scriptures "carefully" via the Spirit, and the truth shows through. And of course this is both logically and Biblically the only way to go. We follow the Word, not try and lead it where we want it to go! When John the Baptist came preparing the way for Christ, He was preparing the way for Jehovah God. Because Jesus was God! Scriptures Confirm this.
- "for this is He that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias (Isaiah) saying, the voice of one crying in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the Lord, make His paths straight."
This is the Fulfillment of the Prophesy of Isaiah,
- "The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God!"
He Prepared the Way for God because Jesus Was God! John had to decrease while Jesus increased. And that word LORD there is [yehovah] Jehovah. Jesus is Jehovah God who John prepared the way for! This is the true God the latchets of whose shoes John was not worthy to unloose. ..Because He was God!
- "John answered saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water, but one Mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to Unloose: He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost!"
The only one who can baptize anyone with the Holy Ghost is God! No one else qualifies. Who has control of the Holy Spirit but God who reveals Himself via it? God alone cleanses with the Holy Spirit! i.e., who else can forgive sins but God? ..No One! No one can cleanse us from sin or baptize with the Holy Spirit, but God! And so with the myriad of scriptures confirming that Jesus is God, you wonder what the controversy is all about.
1st John 5:20
- "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal Life."
Jesus Christ is The true God that we are in, and Eternal Life. These things are made very clear to us when we receive what is written in the scriptures. From the very beginning, the Promise was of God coming, not of a man.
- "Behold, a virgin shall be with Child, and shall bring forth a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God With Us!"
That's what the Word interpreted by God (not man) means. Unfortunately, as is often demonstrated, man doesn't like God's interpretations and wants his own private interpretations. And man's private interpretation is that this was not "God with Us" and all these scriptures (and more) are all misunderstandings by us. Man makes things ambiguous for his own purposes, but Scripture is very clear on the matter. This Child's name was Prophesied to be God with us, and that's what He was. Names in the scriptures carry great significance, and this is no exception. Consistency is the hallmark of truth, inconsistency and contradiction is the hallmark of error.
- "For unto us a Child is Born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulders: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace.
There is no one who would be called the everlasting Father by God, but the Everlasting Father! Did Not Jesus say, call no man Father but your Father in Heaven (Matthew 23:9)? This is what God means! There is One named Everlasting Father, and it is God! Therefore, Jesus being the Mighty God, the Everlasting father, is of course, God! Even doubting Thomas when he put his finger to touch His wounds Confessed, "My Lord and my God!" -John 20:28. ..Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet believe that Jesus is God!
I do want to be careful to stress that I don't mean to put forth the idea that I believe that everyone who has some doubts about the deity of Christ is a demon from hell. I am simply stating that contrary to popular belief, scripture is clear on the matter, and it's a fundamental truth of the historical Church. Yes, there are some legitimate questions that are asked, and these should be addressed honestly by Theologians. Questions Like,
That's a legitimate question, but the answer is simple. Jesus says the Father is greater than I, because He left the glory of being God in Heaven and abased Himself to be the suffering servant and be humiliated for us. When He took on the flesh that he could be the propitiation and pay the penalty for sin, He made Himself of no reputation. Still, the Glory that He had in Heaven, he would have again after His Work on the cross, and ascension to the throne. As was explained in verses such as,
"If God is Jesus, then why does scripture say that God is greater than Christ (John 14:28, I Cor. 11:3)."
- "And now, O Father, Glorify thou Me with Thine own self with the Glory which I had with thee before the world was."
You see, it's no mystery! God revealing Himself to man as the saviour, left the Glory in Heaven to take on the form of man to be the suffering Saviour of man. It's the same thing as we already read in Philippians chapter 2 of Him being in the form of God, leaving that to be made in the likeness of man of no renown. Again,
- "But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Himself the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man."
He was in the form of God, equal, and came as the Servant, not as the Glory of the Father! And so of course He says the Father is greater than I. Because God, the Father, is in His Glory, and God revealing Himself as the Son left that Glory He had in the form of the Father, in order to be the Saviour of man and suffer the wrath of that God for us. So though there can be some things hard to understand, there is really no confusion in those statement, considering all of scripture. Of course, there will always be those who take these hard to understand scriptures and wrest them to try and deceive people about other truths. It's to be expected.
2nd Peter 3:16
- "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction".
Another comment that is often made (sarcastically) is that, "if Christ is sitting at the right hand of God. How can God sit besides Himself?" It can be a legitimate question, but it's usually asked mockingly. But the truth is just as scripture declares it to be. There are three in the Godhead, and these three are one. The mystery can be equated (no where near perfectly) to a River of water which at the head forks into three streams. One stream may water the lilies of the field, another stream may go in another direction to wash the dirt off the busy workers of the field, and still another stream may be for thirsty travelers who pass by that way. Still, it's all from "ONE" stream head, But that one head is doing three different tasks simultaneously. The Water is one, but it is for "three purposes". That doesn't mean it has to be three waters, nor that each individual stream of water is not the source water. All three are one well of water but the well manifests it's work in three. It's one source, and one water, but gets it's work done in three. Of course it goes without saying that that is an imperfect analogy (as any would be) but it makes my point. God is one God, but works out his purpose and will in three (see the significance of the number three in scripture, study).
Of course, anyone can ask rhetorical questions. They ask, "How can God be sitting beside Himself"? I can likewise ask, "How can God pass by Moses on the mountain, and yet be on the other side of the World also?" It's the same question really. And yet they believe God passed by Moses and yet was still everywhere present unquestionably, which only proves that their question about the seating on the Throne is one of self justification, not sincere misunderstanding. Anyone can ask these questions. How can God be in China, and in New York at the same time? He's Omnipresent! How can God dwell in Peter, be dwelling in Paul, and John, and making intercession for Luke by His Spirit, and numbering the hairs on our heads and watching the sparrows at the same time? Of the asking of questions there is no end. All is vanity saith the Preacher. These type questions are usually not questions in a search for an answer or knowledge of truth, they're usually mocking, or products of ego/pride and self justification. The mind set is usually one of, "..Let's see him answer this one, or, I'll get him with this one!" Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.
If God can do anything, can He make a Rock so big that he Can't lift it?
if you say yes, they say "then if He can't lift a rock, He can't do everything". Likewise if you say no. It's a silly self justifying exercise in vanity. What does this question prove? Answer: Nothing! We could write 10 books asking rhetorical questions, but it doesn't solve the basic question here. Namely, are we going to receive what God actually says, or are we going to wrest or twist His Words until they resemble our words and our doctrines? That is the question! Are we going to accept God's Words as the Words of the Wise, or will we build our own doctrines by what is right in our own eyes.
- "The Preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.
- The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the Master of assemblies, which are given from One Shepherd.
- And further, by there, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
- Let us hear the conclusion of the Whole matter: Fear God, and Keep His Commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
- For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good or whether it be evil.
Yes, that's the conclusion of the whole matter. Believe what God says. Keep His Word, His commandments! NO, We have no ability to make Christ Lord, He either is LORD or He is not Lord! Christ either established the Kingdom of God, and is King in that kingdom, or we are of all people most foolish. The truth is, He has established the Kingdom of God. And how is someone ruling as King in the Kingdom of God, who is not God? How is it then the Kingdom of God? The truth as written is, it is the Kingdom of God. And God Rules on the Throne! It's not a Kingdom of this world, and all Christians have a part in it. We have no right to change the laws of the Government because Christendom is not a democracy. It's a Kingdom! ..With a King! We are Servants! And we are Sons by "Grace" not by any Sonship rights. And we worship only God in this kingdom! We come to God the Father through God the Son who makes intercession for us by His Work on the cross. As He has said,
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
Here are a few more of many Excellent Bible references to the Deity of Christ!As we saw, John chapter one is an unmistakable statement as to the eternal existence of the Person of the Word of God, Who is God and Who was and is with God the Father, and has been from the beginning. To state (as some do) in respect of John 1:1 that "the Word was a god is irreverent, derogatory to Christ, and is to commit the heresy. Those who deny the deity of Christ, deny that He is the Saviour, for there is no Saviour but God. Since the Deity of Christ is unquestionably established, there is no need for doubt about His Work, and no problem in accepting His eternalness.Colossians 1:15-17
mark 2:5, 7, 10
1 Timothy 1:16-17
Psalm 45:6-7 (w/Heb. 1:8, Rev 6:2, 19:12-13)
2 Corinthians 13:14
2 Timothy 4:18
We can and should be very grateful to God who in His Holy Scripture has supplied us with all of the truths that we need.
It follows then that we should take every opportunity to first consult the Scriptures for the guidance we seek, and to rely on them, and trust in God Who has authored and inspired them on our behalf.
May the Gracious Lord give us all the Wisdom to discern the truth of His Holy Word. Amen.
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