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Duty-faith
« on: July 12, 2018, 12:12:23 AM »
I hear many people (hyper-calvinists etc) preach against the duty of all men to believe, specifically in light of election etc. But in reading an article of AW Pink about it, he said something that made some sense to me. Firstly, as it's stated that all men are commanded to repent, then it must equally be true of them to believe on Christ for their salvation - since faith and repentance go hand in hand. Secondly, that if it is not a duty of all men (including reprobate) to believe on Christ for their salvation - then it would be no sin in failing to do so. Basically unbelief would be no sin, if belief is not required of them. 

But the other side makes sense too- how can one presume to believe that Christ loves them or died for them unless they know they're elect?

I guess a much simpler question- is "duty-faith" supported in the Bible? Does God require in his law that not only the elect believe on him for their salvation, but reprobate too? To note, I'm not asking if God desires their salvation or anything like that. Only if ALL men are required by God to believe He died for their sins, even those whose sins He did not die for?

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Re: Duty-faith
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 01:27:08 AM »
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Re: Duty-faith
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2018, 06:33:48 AM »
I believe so.

 Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

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Re: Duty-faith
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2018, 12:23:18 PM »
Ac 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

We are commanded to give repentance for our sins, but not all will because faith is a merciful gift of God. Just like the Israelites who died because of their unbelief, or to put it another way, their lack of belief.

Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

They never had the faith of Christ and so they remained in bondage to sin. I believe it is a duty to believe, but "saving" belief is something none of us can muster on our own. Because those Israelites to whom the gospel was first preached didn't enter into the promised land because they did not believe. The Jews, who in the time of Moses first had salvation preached to them, hardened their heats to saving faith.

Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

In other words, they did not enter in because they did not believe. So God must require belief to enter in, and that means it's man's duty (a requirement) to believe, or else he cannot enter in. Just as God requires righteousness, but none of us on our own can muster this righteousness of faith, so God mercifully supplied it for us.

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Re: Duty-faith
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2018, 08:40:11 AM »
I hear many people (hyper-calvinists etc) preach against the duty of all men to believe, specifically in light of election etc.

You don't have to be hyper-calvinist to believe that it is man's duty to believe. I believe that sincerely and I'm not even a Calvinist at all. If it wasn't our duty, then why would one be judged for unbelief.

Romans 11:20
"Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:"


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But in reading an article of AW Pink about it, he said something that made some sense to me. Firstly, as it's stated that all men are commanded to repent, then it must equally be true of them to believe on Christ for their salvation

Yes, because you can't repent unto salvation without belief. Or else it's just the same repentance that all unsaved people have. A repentance in feeling sorry that they did something. That's not true Godly repentance.

Hebrews 12:17
"For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears."

God calls for repentance unto salvation, not worldly repentance. Therefore if God calls for it, then it is belief unto salvation that he calls for. Faith and true repentance go hand in hand. It's their duty to repent unto belief, but without God they fall short every time.


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Secondly, that if it is not a duty of all men (including reprobate) to believe on Christ for their salvation - then it would be no sin in failing to do so. Basically unbelief would be no sin, if belief is not required of them. 

Makes perfect sense.


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But the other side makes sense too- how can one presume to believe that Christ loves them or died for them unless they know they're elect?

But it's not about knowing, it's about what is commanded of you by God. The fool says in his heart that there is no God, but because he doesn't know, does that absolve him from responsibility to believe on God? He has a responsibility to know.

Romans 1:20-21
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened."

There are no excuses for unbelief, it should be known to all they must believe, their ignorance not being an excuse.


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I guess a much simpler question- is "duty-faith" supported in the Bible? Does God require in his law that not only the elect believe on him for their salvation, but reprobate too?

When God commands all to obedience and to not sin, that automatically makes it a duty. A commandment is not a suggestion. When God says there is no excuse for unbelief, he is saying all have a inherent duty to believe.


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I'm not asking if God desires their salvation or anything like that. Only if ALL men are required by God to believe He died for their sins, even those whose sins He did not die for?

The gospel is to one a sword and to another nourishing bread. The reason it is a sword to one is because it cuts them (brings judgment) when they hear it because they are in rebellion to their duty to believe it.  It's like the stone the builders rejected. To one it is the foundation of the church, to another it falls upon them and grinds them to powder. Because they knew not the hour of their visitation, and they had a duty to know.
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