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Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« on: June 03, 2017, 11:41:56 PM »
Is it possible that Donald Trump is the Antichrist? He is the personification of chaos. Even Republicans are said to be tired of the Trump 'chaos' on Capitol Hill. Satan is the father of lies and it would follow that his ruler would be the chief of liars, and Trump fits that also. And since the Antichrist is said to cause chaos and division, and is said to be able to deceive the nations, is it possible that we are witnessing the prophesy of the world ruler known as Antichrist?

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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2017, 12:48:09 AM »

Are you serious?   ::)

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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2017, 01:27:00 PM »
No, Trump could not be the antichrist. He could be, and probably is a antichrist (as there are many antichrists, and most politicians are),  but he certainly is not thee antichrist as Premillennarians understand the term. There is no such thing as a single man who is the antichrist, that's the myth of  the Premillennarians and the stuff of legends.

1 John 2:18
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time".

These are those with the spirit of antichrist. Yes, they're the rich, children of the liar, fornicators, proud,  hypocritical and self serving. Does Trump have that spirit to make him a antichrist? I'd say yes.  But is Trump thee antichrist? No. He's just an incredibly foolish, selfish vain, troubled and most likely mentally handicapped man.  Pray for him as our President. But do not be like him.


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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2017, 10:11:36 PM »
It is really sad that many people are wasting their time looking for "thee" antichrist based on what they hear in the world news or listening to YouTube "prophets" who pretend to know the date based on their researching with astronomy, Jewish feast, or tweets from a president.  Satan is a SPIRIT and is working within men, women, and children. Therefore, these people are coming WITH spirit of antichrist, not knowing that they actually representing Satan in their church. How? By selling their false doctrines that pollutes God's congregation all over the world.  Listen, in God's eyes, the antichrist is ANYONE, great or small, especially professed Christians, who has the spirit of Satan dwelling within them that they become adversaries to God's Word.

Let me give you few examples based on what I have observed:

There are many compassionate and nice people who loves to go to church where they are not looking for religion or don't want to be told what to do. They do not want to hear a message of "behavior modification".  They want to hear something fun, comfortable, trendy, undemanding brand of Christianity. They want the vague feeling of "spirituality" but none of the challenges and sacrifices that go with it. This is something the false prophets and christs will offer to those people of the congregation and they loved it.  Once deceived, they will feel offended by our truthful testimony. They will view us as judgmental or insensitive if we are trying to correct their views on subjects like homosexuality, divorce and remarriage, women in position, speaking in tongues, prosperity gospel, etc.

I believe that majority of them are being indoctrinated with premillennial/pre-tribulation lies that are fed by false prophets and christs, telling them to look out for ONE MAN called "thee" antichrist out there in Europe or wherever, yet they do not realize that they are indeed antichrists in God's house! They believe that Christ is coming but they are looking for wrong signs.  They believe that when "thee" antichrist "shows up" about to sign a 7 years treaty with modern nation Israel, they will be caught up in a rapture to avoid 7 years of 7 years of bloody persecution called the great tribulation.  Sorry, that is a lie!

Now why does God see these people as antichrist? Why do they still go to apostate church where false prophets and christs "rules?  Where did they get power from?

Rev 17:12-18
[12]  And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
[13]  These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
[14]  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
[15]  And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
[16]  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
[17]  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
[18]  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The woman represents God's congregations all over the Earth where Two Witnesses once ruled. The horn in Scripture signifies "power." The number ten in Scripture signifies "fullness."  Therefore, I believe it will be fullness of time these kings (false prophets and christs) to rule as kings with power received from the beast for a short time.  Satan is giving his deceiving power unto his false prophets and christs with lying signs and wonders that can deceive many. 

The false prophets and christs, along with people whom they deceived, will hate the whore which means they HATE Christianity but still want to be "spiritual".  They hate true doctrines, teachings, constraints, discipline, obedience, observance, challenges, commandments, suffering or sacrifice. In other words, they hate all those things that woman once represented! They do not want to have personal relationship with Jesus. They want to have a relationship with "adjustable" Jesus. They want to throw out the difficult, challenging aspect of belief, controversial subjects like homosexuality and gay marriage, abortion, divorce and remarriage, and replace all of it with something comfortable, stylish, hip, customized and convenient.  They want to calibrate their church to a more relaxing, less judgmental, entertainments with luxurious setting. This is trendy, comfortable churches they want. This is HOW the church as fallen into apostasy and desolation. God allows this to happen because they have rejected the truth so He will cause them to believe all the lies coming out of mouths (words/doctrines) of Dragon, beast and false prophets. 


Rev 16:13-14
[13]  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
[14]  For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

The false prophets and christs will show up in God's houses all over the world to turn it into a whoredom.  Their doctrines will mimic the Gospel that could almost deceive the Elect if that is possible. This is Babylon falling that God has warned us about.  You will know when you "see" abomination of desolation standing in God's house where it should not belong.  And if you do see, come out of her so you won't be deceived like the rest.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)

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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 05:55:22 PM »
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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2017, 10:55:17 PM »
Not taking the idea of Trump as anti-Christ seriously, just more Trump-bashing. But if I were to look for the kind of persons/party that best fits the description and qualities that oppose God/Christ, I'd look for a group that:

1. Wants God removed from their platform and society in general
2. Engages in unapologetic habitual lying, distortion, and gross misinformation
3. Champions the slaughter of unborn babies
4. Encourages lawlessness, foments hatred, encourages riots and discord
5. Divides people by race, gender, income, sex to engender hatred for political control
6. Not ashamed to take slaughtered baby organs/parts they killed and sell them
7. Advocates stealing the life-blood-energy of one group and giving it to unproductive non-workers
8. Uses vulgar language, crude talk, and lacks common civility and respect for others
9. Wants increased restriction on freedom of thought, belief, and religious expression for God-centered people
10. Glorifies adultery, homosexuality, fornication and every type of perversion imaginable under the sun
11. Lawbreakers that ignores/subverts federal, state, and local laws, including Constitutional laws
12. Exhibits unquenchable hatred for anyone and everyone that does not believe or think like them
13. Considers the Bible a "hate book" and wants it banned and Christians fired from their jobs
14. Is offended by Christianity and illegally uses government agencies to silence Conservative groups
15. Creates government welfare to destroy families and make people helplessly dependent forever
16. Excuses crime: releases criminals on to the streets, and weeps for the murderer not the murdered
17. Promises free money: creates environment of despair, drunkenness, epidemic drug use, suicide, child abuse, disease
18. Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side
19. Tears down fathers and men; pretends genders don't exist and sexual identity is fluid based on feelings
20. Promotes evolution and anti-God teachings while trying to silence Creation/Intelligent Design concepts
21. Will allow an after-school Satanist group to meet but not an after-school Bible study to be held
22. Will not provide for the security/safety of people: promotes no-borders, allowing criminals/terrorists easy access
23. Unable to govern. Won't build dams or power grids while water and electricity fail, all to protect snails and owls
24. Worships the creation rather than the Creator - bad environmental policies based on nonsense, harms/kills millions
25. Always genning fake fear: global cooling/warming/change, ozone hole, pipelines, overpopulation - to get power
26. Constituents are Socialist/Marxists, Anarchists, felons while haters of: America, the Rich, Whites/Asians, Men
27. Unreasoning. Cannot argue merit of their ideas but vilify, disparage, mock, or shout-down to silence others
28. Hypocrites. They love money/riches - while decrying and vilifying the rich for supposedly stealing from the poor
29. Excuse/lie about a foreign policy that produced bedlam, death, and disease for millions - while hating Israel
30. Allow an ambassador and special forces personnel to die needlessly - then lie and pretend not to remember
31. Enrich themselves out of greed using governmental positions in pay-to-play favors for cash donations
32. Trying to destroy an elected president through sabotage and deceit while feigning 'concern' for America
33. Zero morals; don't care about right/wrong or consequences: just get power and wealth at any cost
34. Applauds/adores evil and evildoers, hates whatever is wholesome, polite, kind, or any type of Christian character

I don't find it hard to discern ...

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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2017, 01:23:12 AM »
Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side

More racist and race baiting rants by a obviously disturbed right wing fascist group that I won't even dignify with a response. Save that for the KKK meetings, they're the only ones dumb enough to actually believe that stupidity.


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...if I were to look for the kind of person that best fits the description

Well, that person sure sounds like Trump and his supporters to me. Wow, it's really close.

 Engages in unapologetic habitual lying, distortion, and gross misinformation
 Encourages lawlessness, foments hatred, encourages riots and discord
 Divides people by race, gender, income, sex to engender hatred for political control
 Uses vulgar language, crude talk, and lacks common civility and respect for others
 Wants increased restriction on freedom of thought, belief, and religious expression for God-centered people
 Glorifies adultery, fornication and every type of perversion imaginable under the sun
 Lawbreakers that ignores/subverts federal, state, and local laws, including Constitutional laws
 Exhibits unquenchable hatred for anyone and everyone that does not believe or think like them
 Unable to govern.
 Worships the mamon of unrighteousness rather than the Creator
 Distroys the environment and ignores health issues so the rich can get richer.
 Governs by engendering fear and hatred of other races
 In hypocrisy blames all their crimial activity, unconstitutional laws and failures on fake new
 Constituents are Racists, Fascists, Phgarisees
 Hates immigration en the country was built on it.
 Pretends the "white" man is the underprivilidged and downtrodden
 Believes the poor, hungry, widows and old are the problem
 Unreasoning. Cannot argue merit of ideas, vilifies, mocks, or shout-down to silence others
 Love money/riches, decrying and vilifying the poor for preventing the rich from gettng richer
 Excuse our enemies like Russia and vilifies all our friends like Britain, Germany and Europe
 The father of lies, with a foreign policy that produce riches for companies his family has interests in.
 Allows special forces personnel to die needlessly
 Enrich themselves out of greed using governmental positions in pay-to-play favors for cash
 Zero morals
 Doesn't care about right/wrong or consequences
 Just get power and wealth at any cost
 Applauds evil and evildoers of Russia & China & admires the leader of North Korea
 Calls opponents Fat, patronizes women, hates whatever is charity, pure, polite or kind

I don't find it hard to discern t all. It's Trump, and the whole world knows it. And if anyone advocates stealing the life-blood-energy of one group and giving it to unproductive non-workers like rich business owners, Oil companies and placing coal miners in jeopardy, it's Trump and his ilk.

  ...you know, maybe Trump is the Antichrist after all John. He's sure the father of lies, has deceived a lot of people and thinks of himself as God.  :thinker:
  Kellyanne Conway: Sometimes Trump Lies Because
 He Doesn't Know the Truth, Okay?

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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2017, 08:27:51 AM »
Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side

Murdered by racist people on their side? John, why is everything race-baiting with you, Fred and Bram? I don't know how anyone can think the way you three do and call yourselves Christian. I can't believe you think this is how Christians should act. Are you even aware how many black cops are killed? You turn killing cops into a racist rant and political football to further your obvious disdain for minorities. For the last several years, I've sat here and read you call Federal agents just doing their jobs terrorists, championing racist authors of the past, defending Cliven Bundy's claims that blacks were better off in slavery, excusing the "unconsitutional" rants of Trump that he could ban Muslims from this country, and so on and so forth. You even called those Christians here who disagreed with your rants liberal, who are obviously not liberal. I'd like to know how people like you, Fred and Bram justify all this with claiming to be a Christ filled Christian? Do you ever look at yourself to see what others see? Aren't Christians supposed to be at peace rather than vindictive and anxious.

Philippians 4:5
"Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

I don't think You, Philly Dawg's or Bram's posts are in conjunction with whatsoever is true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report, of any virtue and praise to be thought on.

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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2017, 03:29:48 PM »
Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side

Murdered by racist people on their side? John, why is everything race-baiting with you, Fred and Bram?


On whose side? People here who know Trump is unqualified to be President? Just who is promoting the killing of "white" cops? And just who is on the side of cop killers? Don't be vague, post names of those who want cops killed. Or is that just a lot of unjustified rhetoric? John, you're getting kind of looney here in the last few years. Liberals promoting the killing of white cops is all in your head John. There are no politicians, white or black, liberal or conservative, who are promoting the killing of "white" cops. You made that up or took it from a radical racist blog, and it's very disappointing. Bring the old John back, what have you done with him?
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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2017, 04:30:39 PM »
Bring the old John back, what have you done with him?

Why do you assume the old John is the real John? Perhaps (and I think he'd concur) the posts that he's made here are from the real John. He believes that. What you read from him is what is in him. Nobody gave him those words, those are his words. I have learned over the years that nothing brings out the real person like Adversity, Politics, Anger or Alcohol. Do not assume. He may very well actually think politicians want white cops killed, I have heard stranger things from radicals from both the right and left side of the aisle who claim to be Christian. Go to the radical right websites, you will read that Trump is by far the greatest President we've ever had. And he hasn't done one thing yet. Go figure. That only proves people believe whatever they want, facts mean nothing anymore. If someone says all the Muslims are the problem in the U.S., it becomes a fact they are the problem in these people's minds. That's why they took all the Japanese U.S. Citizens in WWII and put them all in concentration camps for no other reason than that they were Japanese. It's right wing paranoia and brainwashing 101.

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2017, 04:39:34 PM »
Thank you  John.

Some people's eyes will never be opened.
They missed manchester, they missed the london bridge.
They love muslims but and judge their fellow christians, even though they don't know who the muslims really are.
Even our villages get full with young moslim men.
 Two young girls 14 years old found murdered last week not to far from here'.
Our government gets  more muslim man in, we pay more taxes every year for welfare.

I know it Gods judgement, because our nation left the christian faith more and more. Its also Gods Judgement that we have such a government, that is political correct, and destroys our country. That government that promotes, abortion, homosexuality and all the pervers things that you can think off. We cannot have an government that acts more foolish than this liberal thieves.

It is very sad that even christians love this liberal lifestyle.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2017, 05:31:57 PM »
Thank you  John.

Some people's eyes will never be opened.
They missed manchester, they missed the london bridge.
They love muslims but and judge their fellow christians, even though they don't know who the muslims really are.
Even our villages get full with young moslim men.
 Two young girls 14 years old found murdered last week not to far from here'.
Our government gets  more muslim man in, we pay more taxes every year for welfare.

Luke 17:1-2
"Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Your racism is an offense to Christ. You said it was all he Africans who were the problem over there, and now it's the Muslims. Who will it be tomorrow, the Russian Armenians, the Syrians, the liberal Jews, the Philippinos or the South Americans? Do everyone a favor and keep your problems and your racism in your own country. Since the election, our quota for bigots is full, as we have enough murder here by Whites, Asians and Blacks to deal with without adding racism to the mix.  It's not race that is your problem, it's your idiotic laws and your policies concerning lawbreakers.


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I know it Gods judgement, because our nation left the christian faith more and more.

Crime is now God's judgment? There has been crime since the dawn of time, the only difference is that now it's instantly reported all over the world. The criminals are not Muslims, Africans, Mexicans Italians and Jews, they're just criminals. What church do you go to, the church of "Heil Hitler." You want to keep the race pure and blame all the immigrants? Read your history book. The genocide of the Jews in Germany started because of Christians (supposedly) like yourself who listened to their leaders who blamed all the problems of the country and all the crime on the Jews. That's a fact. I'm Jewish, I know the history very well. These same simple minded attitudes held by simple minded people who were to dumb to actually figure out the real problem was racism and fascism. No, crime has no race and has no color. Your crime is the product of stupid laws and stupid people who don't obey laws, not race. And clearly, there is no shortage of stupid people both here and abroad.


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We cannot have an government that acts more foolish than this liberal thieves.

You sound like Trump, the biggest thief of all. Steal from the middle class and poor and give to the rich. That is soooo going to make things better, end crime, cause divisions to cease, lower the taxes for the middle class, and put the dark and yellow people back in their place.  NOT!


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It is very sad that even christians love this liberal lifestyle.
Bram

It is very sad that You, Fred and John are three peas in a confused pod. You can justify yourselves before simple minded men, but can you justify yourself before God.

Matthew 7:21-23
 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

If there is one thing I do know, I know Christ is not a racist, and neither are those who serve him.


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Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2017, 07:13:04 PM »
We're not starting this again are we? The racists can't resist being racists and the trouble makers can't resist poking at them! They're both at fault.

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