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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2017, 06:30:09 AM »
OK. I'm asking for a moderator to decide if you are going to allow this Philly Dawg

This Phiily Dawg? Oh, "this Philly "Dawg!" I get it, you're calling me a dawg. Cute.  You wouldn't do the same thing your accusing me of, would you? No, because that would be hypocrisy.


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to continue his unbridled slander, defamation, insults, trash talk, and ad hominem attacks against forum members?

Trash talk? What about you calling federal officers just doing their jobs, a bunch terrorizing Cliven Bundy? Rules state, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. And for all our sake, stop complaining like a 10 year old girl.


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Obviously the answer is "Yes we will", but before I leave I want to hear it from a moderator.

You want the moderator to lie and say you didn't back Cliven Bundy, didn't claim Diane was saying things just because she was black, that Trump is not a liar and h administration a mess. You haven't shown one thing where I have violated the rules. Anything I've said about you I've provided the link to show you actually said those things and did those things. Is that against rules? If you don't like it, don't say and do those things. And I won't be directing people to read where you did.


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I don't abide disgusting and vile people

You accuse me, then show yourself calling me names. I'll just say (since I'm not a big baby), if you don't abide discusting and vile people, how are you supportingTrump?  :thinker:


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- yes, these hate-filled demagogues and smear merchants are everywhere, they are unreasoning beasts

This Beast is not going to stop calling you out on your anti-government ramblings. And if I'm banned, I'm, banned.


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If no moderator bothers to reply in the next few days I'll assume the answer is "Yes we support Philly Dawg".

I don't think the admin moderator or Tony Warren support anyone here, they allow the free discussion of topics for those who choose to participate. Your problem is you don't want anyone referencing your old posts where you make your radical views abundantly clear. You become enraged when I show people your posts about race and the Bundy gang. If that's against rules, that's news to me.


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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2017, 01:29:37 AM »
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This forum is on its death throes anyway, so they'll hardly be anyone here to miss you in a couple weeks.

Fred, it's not a popularity contest. I don't care about me ... don't care being called names by haters, don't care what you or others here think one way or the other, don't care being slandered by a jerk on the forums. What I do care is what it says about this Christian forum, its moderators and its owner - and the expected lifespan of this site.

 I care about the truth. Whether it is Bible truth, political truth, or historical truth ... truth is truth! When people lie and defame or trample Scripture underfoot or spread hate - the transformation into something ugly and carnal advances like a rot.

When the Left attacks it isn't an intellectual argument. The Left deals in emotion - garbage trucks full of vitriol spewed forth toward anyone not like them. The label everyone "haters" and "racists" - that is their intellectual argument. The same goes for Bible discussion - it slides into the abyss of personal feelings and emotions.

Democrats (the neo-Marxist/Socialist Party) go marching forth without honor, without honesty, and attack and lie - it is by this assault that they have driven most reasonable (and informed) people from their base. Yes, they have the Black Lives Matter who want dead white cops, the radical greenies that deny real science, and a mixed bag of anarchists, dead-beats, America-haters, Marxists, felons, welfare recipients and the covetous who want their Socialist overlords to transfer the earned wealth of others into their greedy hands. The destruction of the people only happened after the Church itself was overthrown.

The Decline of Christianity began in the Church when the Left got a foothold, immediately they denied the authority of Scripture. Soon they had corrupted the seminaries. Then they attacked the family unit - turning children away from their parents to love and subservience to the State. They attacked marriage. They attacked man-woman relationships, and they sold sexual promiscuity and abortion. Those Church leaders of old never took action to rid their institution of these serpents, these wolves - and before they could recognize the threat and mobile, their institutions had been sold lock, stock, and barrel to the Devil. And they were kicked out in favor of the new ruling class of infidels.

The Left is sly, unwavering, committed, unyielding ... and always dogmatically accusing Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians (their main focus of hate) of anything that they think might stick. They blame their failures on their most hated foes - they deal in fear and  race mongering. They pit the poor against the rich, black against white, male against female, the citizen against the illegal invader. They tear down the family and then they tear down marriage. They destroy genders, they punish boys for not behaving like girls, they teach people to fear real men. Then they destroy even the idea of male and female. Gender becomes meaningless, marriage is meaningless, father and motherhood is meaningless, a baby in the womb is meaningless, right and wrong is meaningless, the Bible is meaningless, Truth is meaningless ... and they believe from the ashes of the death of all this, out of their depraved hate-filled minds will come the Utopian world of peace and tranquility.

So here we have it. The Left never backs down. They never apologize. They never acknowledge wrong. They know no shame. They cannot blush. They never give up, they never learn ... always driving relentlessly forward, with hatred of God propelling them to madness.

Yet, in spite of this extensional threat, this forum sits here like a gazelle grazing on the open prairie. Bit by bit the predators surround and infiltrate. They tear at this forum and work evil (which they think good). As the Churches fell, so too in like manner goes all Christian forums eventually, some without a struggle (most now just argue opinions between themselves or quote dead scholars - no reference to ultimate truth is used). Eventually, the sleepy excuse-making moderators dilly-dally, fold-the-hands, wink at sin, and allow the forum frog to boil - when the transformation is complete they are just like every other so-called Christian forum - lost in carnality. The game was lost before they even noticed they were under attack.

I attended a faithful church in Texas years back - solid congregation of mature Christians. The pastor was the weak link ... liked the idea of Pentecostalism (urging from his wife). In less than a year most of the long-standing members had left (leaving a vacancy) as young tongue-speakers moved in, to the praise of the pastor. It went from solid Reformed to false-gospel Satan-worshipers in just a matter of months.

If the Moderators on this forum think they are immune from having this forum overthrown, they are sadly mistaken. It's underway, the barbarians are at the gate (actually sitting happily inside the courtyard).

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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2017, 05:04:15 PM »
Then why are you supporting the Radical, tax evading racist Cliven Bundy? Why are you making excuses for the racist rants of Reformed authors like R.L. Dabney on this forum? That's the mystery for some here.

I know Bundy is a racist, but how is Dabney a racist. I've never heard that before.

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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #63 on: April 02, 2017, 12:52:53 AM »
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What does the loosing of Satan really look like?
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Luke 6:4445
  • "For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
  • A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh."

Satan is a spirit, and he works within mankind. Thus we will recognize this spirit the same way we recognize those with the Spirit of God. By their fruits. Does the Spirit of God blasphemy, does it defer from authority of the word, or does it condemn truth or call it evil?

1st John 4:1
  • "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

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Good question and good answer. You think that is probably why you say not many will see the loosing of Satan, because they aren't prepared to try the spirits. So many Christians decide what is truth based on church affiliation, their friendships, agreement with their own views, and even political parties. I agree that we are to look at the bible for truth because that's the only way to see if their words agree with God's word. If it does, then it's truth. Why is that so difficult? It doesn't matter that they're Baptist or Presbyterian, Southerner or Northerner, Black or White. Truth is truth.

Lu 9:49-50
And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Christ is saying, if this other group is doing miracles in "His name," they are not to be condemned or forbidden, because if they are doing such miracles in Christ's name, then obviously they are not against Him, they are for him. Also there is no mention of these being false miracles, and Christ would have certainly reprimanded them if they were. We know that no one can do real miracles in Christ's name except they are sent of Christ. So this other group was part of God's children. Because miracles represent salvation. I know Christians who only accept you as a Christian if you are part of their group. That is not right. We have to try the spirits, and not by their church affiliation, by their fruits. Do they speak the truth, even if we don't like it, or do they take offense at the truth.

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And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Tony is on target about knowing what the loosing of Satan looks lie? It looks like a lie being told in the name of Christ. It looks like ministers of Satan appearing as ministers of light. It looks like Christians taking their eyes off Christ and placing them on themselves. It looks like love growing cold. This is the real evidence of Satan being loosed and a great decline in the Church.

"Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?" -Ecclesiastes 8:4

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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #64 on: April 02, 2017, 03:13:41 AM »
Tony is on target about knowing what the loosing of Satan looks lie? It looks like lies in the name of Christ. It looks like ministers of Satan appearing as ministers of light. It looks like Christians taking their eyes off Christ and placing them on themselves. It looks like love growing cold. The real evidence of a great decline in the Church.

Yes, in the church, not in the political arena, not in denominations, not the Freedom Caucus, not in Cliven Bundy or government agents gone wild, it's the liberals in the church! It's amazing that we have a house full of termites eating away the foundation right in the church, and we're so overly confused about God's sovereignty that we forget our own house and run to fix the world by attacking the ants in the house of our enemies.

  ...it's a allegory :)
 
 Mr 4:18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
 19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

The key word here is unfruitful. Christians today are so concerned with the things that pertain to this life (the cares of this world) that they have forgotten their first love. It's so frustrating to see.

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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2017, 05:12:37 AM »
Then why are you supporting the Radical, tax evading racist Cliven Bundy? Why are you making excuses for the racist rants of Reformed authors like R.L. Dabney on this forum? That's the mystery for some here.

I know Bundy is a racist, but how is Dabney a racist. I've never heard that before.

I assume from your question that you know who Dabney is, but for those who don't know, Robert Lewis (R.L.) Dabney was Stonewall Jackson’s chief of staff and chaplain during the Civil War, a controversial Christian author of the 1800's who much of the Reformed community have latched onto and who's views are quite racist. But that's not the problem. Lots of people were racist in those days, that didn't mean they weren't saved. The real problem is "some" christians today want to put forth an argument that he wasn't racist (like John did about Bundy in that thread I bumped), but was just misunderstood because he used unfortunate wording. ::)

That's ridiculous and that is the real problem. The failure of many conservative Christians to recognize racism because I believe they themselves are closet racists. The minute you use the word racism they fly into a tizzy about liberals destroying the nation and other rants that have no bearing on what you were discussing. My position is that there is no need to white wash the fact that R.L. Dabney was a racist (Martin Luther was antisemitic) because none of us are perfect in our thinking. But their position is that he wasn't racist at all, it's just that we (or anyone who actually looks at the facts) are "liberals" who throw that term around without any basis. Then they redefine the word racism so that it's nearly impossible for anyone to be a racist. But let me get back to Dabney. After the civil war, he wrote one of the most racist books ever written (A Defense of Virginia), which some Puritan and Reformed Christians choose to either ignore or deny it is "really" racist. He was against the education of Black (Negro) people and said those who attempt to do this are “mischievous,” “tyrannical,” “useless,” “impracticable,” and “dishonest.” He considered black people to be a “morally inferior race,” a “sordid, alien taint” marked by “lying, theft, drunkenness, laziness, and waste.” He considered owning slaves to be very Christian and ”the righteous, the best, yea, the only tolerable relation” between black people and white people.  Here are just some choice things that Dabney wrote:

It is well known, that, as a general rule, [Negroes] are a graceless, vagabondish set, and contribute very little to the support of the State by which they are protected. They are not citizens, never can become citizens, and wherever found in large numbers they are an expense and a source of trouble…

If indeed they can mix the blood of the heroes of Manassas with this vile stream from the fens of Africa, then they will never again have occasion to tremble before the righteous resistance of Virginia freemen; but will have a race supple and vile enough to fill that position of political subjugation, which they desire to fix on the South.

He also condemned what he called the abhorrent amalgamation of white children with black children and argued (like Cliven Bundy) that it was better for blacks to be enslaved than not since it was better for their minds and their health. He spent a lot of his time in efforts trying to restrict black membership from the Southern Presbyterian Church.

Shall I go on or are you convinced? Because there are some Christians (who shall remain nameless of course) that are convinced that men like R.L. Dabney and Cliven Bundy are getting a bad rap because those of us who actually face facts are liberals out to destroy the church. In other words, I believe these people have lost the ability to think clearly. Like those cultists who think Obama wire tapped Trump Towers, or Hillary is the Devil's spawn or that Trump will actually make America great again. There's no accounting for the delusions of man except his desperately wicked heart.
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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #66 on: April 02, 2017, 09:08:49 AM »
Yes, in the church, not in the political arena, not in denominations, not the Freedom Caucus, not in Cliven Bundy or government agents gone wild, it's the liberals in the church!

Reformer, Liberals are everywhere, not just in the church. If you allow them to prosper in the world, then they will for sure come into the church. You have to stamp them out wherever you find them. You forget, we still have to live in this world.

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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #67 on: April 02, 2017, 11:04:33 AM »

Show me where scripture says we are to go forth into the world and stamp out liberals? I never read that. It doesn't say that, right? That's man in his own hubris and arrogance talking, not God. We are not tasked to do such things by Christ. Christians are always adding duties to God's word that he doesn't assent to.

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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #68 on: April 02, 2017, 05:48:52 PM »
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Yes, in the church, not in the political arena, not in denominations, not the Freedom Caucus, not in Cliven Bundy or government agents gone wild, it's the liberals in the church!

Reformer, Liberals are everywhere, not just in the church. If you allow them to prosper in the world, then they will for sure come into the church.
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We don't "allow" the rebellious to prosper in the world, they prosper because the world is by nature sinful and rebellious and no Christian is ever going to change that.  It is the job of the Christian to bring the good news of deliverance from sin to the world, it has never been and is not our Job to keep the world from sinning (as if that were even possible). Once we really understand that this edict is not just lip service, we will understand why God declares that we as the church are aliens, non-citizens, strangers and pilgrims in this sinful nation and world. In Christ Jesus, the Christian church is a unique nation and light to the world, separated and distinctive "from" the world. Sometimes it seems that Christians think that we were commissioned to attempt to turn the governments of the world into a light. But that is not the case, there is a difference His nation and this temporal nation. In truth, we don't "allow" the world to be liberal, or indeed to be anything, the world is diametrically opposed to doing the good thing by nature. No state, nation, kingdom or world was ever righteous, nor can be. It is the church that we were commanded of God not to allow the wicked to prosper in--and we have failed miserably in that task by taking our eyes off Christ and the actual mission that He gave us. Clearly, Our job is not to correct the world governments or to make our governments righteous, but to go to the world with the gospel that the world might have REAL hope rather than pie-in-the-sky. Our mission statement, recorded throughout Scripture is quite clear.

Mark 16:15
  • " And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."

The great commission is to preach the gospel to the world, not to remove sinful men from the world's governments. God never gives us a labor to do that is in vain. Moreover, liberals don't come into the church because nations and governments are sinful or unfair, or because some principality has an unrighteous king, or because there are so many of them that are in office, they come into the church because they are invited, they are welcomed, they are desired by those unfaithful already within the church. They come into the church because pastors allow them in. Anything outside of the church is by nature the child of the Devil, and so logically speaking the only way to make the world better is to make the church better. It's a numbers game. i.e., more church that is in the world means more light and less darkness--that's how it works. You can't change the world through politics (that's a liberal philosophy), you can only bring the light to the world and sovereign God will do as He sees fit--which is not to bring about a golden age of righteous kingdoms on earth. That is a pipe dream, a forever elusive, unattainable hope.


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With all due respect, that's also pipe dream. You can't stamp out liberals (whatever that means to whomever) in the world, anymore than you can stamp out sin in the world. Neither is that the work that Christ has assigned to the "faithful" Christian, though I will grant you many seem to not only suppose that it is, but will fight to the death to support it. Actually, I really don't think that most professing Christians today even know what their job "as Christians" actually is. It's not to stamp out sin in their nation (the epitome of futility), but to call the elect with the good news of deliverance from sin.

Matthew 24:14
  • "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."

W preach the gospel as a witness to the people of the world, not of righteous government in the world, but of the righteous government of Christ. Our government is upon His shoulders, not national government upon ours. Did you ever hear Christ or the Apostles preaching to the world how Christians should make the governments thereof righteous? Not once, imagined or otherwise. On the contrary, they preached on keeping the church righteous by obedience, which today has fallen upon deaf ears. You say we have to stamp liberals out, and that's the typical mind set and response of the world to an enemy. To strike back at them, an eye for an eye. But it's not the Christian way. We can respond to our enemies with hate or we can respond as Christ and Stephen did (Luke 23:34; Acts 7:60) in asking God to bless and forgive them. Yes, that's unorthodox to the prideful, but that is the Spirit of Christ. Christians today want to fight the governments and strike a blow for the cause of Christ, which is not what Christ taught. Our swords are not carnal, but the spiritual sword of the word of God. Our mission is not to save the world from itself, but to save the elect from the world. With charity, agape love, not with empty boasts of earthly reconstruction, disdain or delusions of grandeur, but with spiritual reconstruction of the elect.

Matthew 5:43-44
  • "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
  • But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

Our enemies are to be conquered by Christ's love in our desiring for them the same blessings we have freely received. We fight back by the gospel and by the example that we show them in our lives. We feed them in witnessing to them, and if they ultimately reject us, that word will become as fire from our mouths to condemn them at the last day.

Roans 12:20-21
  • " Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
  • Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

If we are truly in Christ, we will never be overcome by evil, and we will never overcome evil in the world by a vain attempt to stamp it out. We overcome evil by the goodness of Christ seen in us. The fact is, governments rule by divine decree and all the wicked are our enemy in need. It is "our job" to supply those needs through the preaching of Christ. This is the essence of the doctrine of loving your enemy. This is the same general message that Christ taught in Matthew 5:44. Our jobs are not to stamp them out, but rather to stamp out our own fear of them, stamp out our resentments and stamp out our anger. If we are so determined to stamp out sin in governments, then we should start in our own lives, and then in our own house. Because that is where the decline of the church starts.


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You forget, we still have to live in this world.
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Just because we live in this world doesn't mean that we have to become like this world, ranting and raving about temporal things that are merely fuel for the fire. Perhaps Christians forget that Christ said that we are not of this world because he has chosen us out of the world? Don't fear governments or rulers, fear God. Don't fight the power, fight the good fight. Represent yourself with your vote, and let sovereign God do the rest.

1st Peter 2:11-15
  • "Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
  • Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.
  • Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
  • Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
  • For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:"

Here we see God painting this portrait for us that we may understand the temporary nature of our existence and dwelling upon this earth. We are not at home here, though you wouldn't know that by the actions of today's professing Christians. We are as foreigners in a strange land, as pilgrims just passing through. They don't seem to really understand what that means. We are not as so many who fight and rant and demand citizenship and rights "as if" this was their ultimate home to fight for and protect. Be aware that if your mind set is wrong, then your thinking will be wrong, and if your assumptions are wrong, your conclusions will be wrong, and if your labors are wrong, then your fruit will be wrong. Yes, we still have to live in this world, but not like this world in clinging to this temporal existence as if it is our home that we must fight to make righteous.


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Re: The Decline of Christianity
« Reply #69 on: April 02, 2017, 07:59:58 PM »
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« Reply #70 on: April 02, 2017, 08:47:17 PM »

Not if he's going to write this liberal philosophy. Our founding fathers created this country by rebelling against the government of England, and I suppose they weren't doing the Christian ting? That's nonsense! Sometimes you have to fight the government in order to get your God given rights. It's his kind of thinking that has made this country go down hill.

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« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2017, 02:34:33 AM »
Not if he's going to write this liberal philosophy.

Wow, you guys throw that word liberal around like it was confetti. According to your definition it seems the only ones who are not labeled liberals here are those who give a pass to racism, always agree with Republicans, moan about taxes, resent their rulers, and consent to your obviously anti government aggressive posture. That's fine with me because Christ never supported any of those things either. Under your criteria, Christ was the biggest liberal of all time. Hallelujah! So label us what you want because labels don't define who or what Tony, Me or anyone else is, God does.

Tony, as usual your post hit the mark squarely in the bulls eye. Who is President I don't let define my character,  what I do, who I am, or what is my job. My grandmother use to tell me the story of the old woman who had a Virginia ham under her arms and went around crying because she had no bread. She was talking about me, but I got the picture and I was a child. Christians today don't get the picture. They are so disgruntled about the least little thing and ungrateful for the blessed opportunity they have actually do the Lord's work. They'd rather complain about politics, moan about money and cry about someone else getting more than they deserve. Aren't we getting more than we deserve from Christ? People have lost perspective because they are so self absorbed.

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Our founding fathers created this country by rebelling against the government of England, and I suppose they weren't doing the Christian ting?

No, they weren't. I know that because the Bible says so. They weren't doing the Christian thing when they robbed the American Indians of their land or enslaved minorities either. But God used their collective sins to build this nation. The Bible is full of Godly people who did things that were not Godly. That's no measure of what was and was not the wrong things for them to do. Solomon served false gods. Do I look at that history and use it as a example of a Christian thing because a Christian did it? That would be foolish.


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"Give me liberty, or give me death!" by Patrick Henry

It would have been better if he had sought true liberty in the death of Christ, rather than in rebellion. The topic of this thread is the decline of the church. Let's try and at least keep it around that topic. Enough of this political agenda that some of you have.


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« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2017, 04:23:49 AM »
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"Give me liberty, or give me death!" by Patrick Henry

It would have been better if he had sought true liberty in the death of Christ, rather than in rebellion. The topic of this thread is the decline of the church. Let's try and at least keep it around that topic. Enough of this political agenda that some of you have.

True liberty in the death of Christ. Wow, couldn't have said it better. I'm so sick of this political scene.

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« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2017, 04:26:08 AM »

PS. some people are actually touching people's lives by the gospel rather than worshiping at the political altar of Trump or Hillary.

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« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2017, 11:27:11 AM »

Good stuff. And the reason the church is declining is that there is so much less of "this" gospel message by Christians and so much more of Christian wasting their time on politics. I couldn't agree more with Tony and Reformer and less with Phillydawg and John. The church has a very specific job and it is not politics.

 


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