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William B

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What is Spiritual Insanity?
« on: February 11, 2014, 07:00:28 AM »
Reading some of these posts that go back for years, I am struct by the constant implication of some to spiritual insanity. Which leads me to my question. Does what we know as insanity, or more to the point the criminally insane, actually exist. Or is it simply the evil spirits within us? For example, a man who open fires in a school or kills and eats people, is he actually insane or is that just another example of the evil one working in him? I am on the fence on this one so any  comments will be helpful.

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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 05:15:18 PM »

I think insanity exists. I'm just not sure that this country is doing the right thing in making it an excuse for criminal activity. Insane or not, lawbreakers should not be justified by some doctor declaring that they are still insane or have been cured from insanity where they can be set free back into society. Not until after they've completed the same sentence anyone else has to. If that makes any sense.

 Mark 5:15 "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid".

Christ equated insanity to sin and a person being controlled by Satan. Let's not lose sight of that.

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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 07:55:36 AM »
It don't think there are as many cases of things that the so called doctors say there are but in some cases I do believe it happens like a flu for the brain and sometimes like an uncureable sickness to the brain.
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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 08:24:01 AM »
In the real sense, aren't liberals insane? Couldn't a case be made that those who tattoo their face or are anarexic or can't control their temper or habits of constantly eating are insane?

My only point being, if you leave it up to Psychiatrists nearly anyone can be diagnosed as insane because there is no actual test.


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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 04:43:43 AM »
In the real sense, aren't liberals insane?

Yes! And a lot of conservatives also. If insanity is severe mental illness characterized by the condition of having unsoundness of mind, being deranged, unbalanced or in a unhinged state of the mind, then a case can be made that all unsaved people are insane. Whether they be conservative or liberal. Some dictionaries define insanity as extreme folly or unreasonableness or someone being utterly foolish or illogical. Thus all unsaved people qualify.

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Couldn't a case be made that those who tattoo their face or are anarexic or can't control their temper or habits of constantly eating are insane?

Yes. Because they have an unsound mind, showing themselves deranged, unbalanced, unhinged, exhibiting extreme folly or unreasonableness in being utterly foolish and illogical.


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My only point being, if you leave it up to Psychiatrists nearly anyone can be diagnosed as insane because there is no actual test.

My test is the Bible. Those who say there is no God and who dishonor and mock Him are insane spiritually.


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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2014, 05:29:52 PM »

So let me get this straight. Now you're implying that insanity doesn't exist, and it's not a medical condition, it's all just sin? Where is your proof of this? Where is your medical study? What are your credentials to make such a claim?

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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 03:28:21 AM »

So let me get this straight. Now you're implying that insanity doesn't exist, and it's not a medical condition, it's all just sin? Where is your proof of this? Where is your medical study? What are your credentials to make such a claim?

It's just their opinion Betty. Like Predestination and Replacement theology, they don't need any proof. They just say it and it becomes doctrine. We all know sin of a child and of the mentally ill is not accounted to them. Some mental illness is caused by a Chemical imbalance. That's medical.

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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 06:34:26 AM »

So let me get this straight. Now you're implying that insanity doesn't exist, and it's not a medical condition, it's all just sin? Where is your proof of this? Where is your medical study? What are your credentials to make such a claim?

No, I'm not implying that. I'm saying that there are all kinds of insanity.

 Ps 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

The word fool means senseless or not having the faculties or mental capacity to perceive reality. In a word, insanity. Meaning mental instability. Yes I'm saying the unsaved are insane spiritually. That's not to say there are not some who are mentally ill, it is to say all unsaved are. When I hear atheists rant on about God, there is no question in my mind that they are mentally incapable of understanding reality, just like the insane.

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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 06:42:46 AM »

So let me get this straight. Now you're implying that insanity doesn't exist, and it's not a medical condition, it's all just sin? Where is your proof of this? Where is your medical study? What are your credentials to make such a claim?

It's just their opinion Betty. Like Predestination and Replacement theology, they don't need any proof. They just say it and it becomes doctrine.

Predestination is not an opinion, it is a biblical fact. Just like the Theology that the nation of Israel set among the nations to represent the Covenant, is no more. The nation of Israel set among the nations to represent the Covenant is now the Church on earth.

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We all know sin of a child and of the mentally ill is not accounted to them. Some mental illness is caused by a Chemical imbalance. That's medical.

The sin of a child and of the mentally ill is accountable as any other sin is. That's why we have Christ, to pay for the sins of the child and the mentally ill. Your theology is one of personal opinion, rather than of the Bible.

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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 01:13:04 PM »
Insanity exists because why else would some Christians hate the Jews and seek to take their rightful place from them? Especially when they know that God loves them? Yes, insanity exists.

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Re: Does Insanity Exist or is it Simply Evil Spirits in Man?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2014, 08:42:26 AM »
I have often wondered if superstition and insanity are related? The Japanese believe there are a billion deities. Isn't that a form of insanity? There isn't a shred of logic or evidence for such reasoning, in fact it lacks reason. Isn't a lack of reasoning a form of insanity?

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What is Spiritual Insanity?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2017, 02:54:56 PM »
Tony,
   I've only been here a short period of time as you know but I am impressed with the knowledge of scripture I see presented here. My question is what is this spiritual insanity that you and others have referenced from time to time. I've never heard it mentioned anywhere but here so if you could enlighten me, I would be most grateful. Thanks.

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Re: What is Spiritual Insanity?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2017, 06:59:05 AM »
It's like Virtual Insanity, only Spiritual  ;D

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Re: What is Spiritual Insanity?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 08:33:31 AM »
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Tony,
   I've only been here a short period of time as you know but I am impressed with the knowledge of scripture I see presented here. My question is what is this spiritual insanity that you and others have referenced from time to time. I've never heard it mentioned anywhere but here so if you could enlighten me, I would be most grateful. Thanks.
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Spiritual Insanity is a type of mental impairment or spiritual madness where our thinking becomes unbalanced, unsound and even delusional. It is actually a term "gleaned" from the Scripture where someone has the spirit of Satan wherein they are viewed as not in their right mind, and thus by implication, insane. In Scripture God uses insanity as a portrait of the unsound or actually unreasonable behavior of the unsaved who are in bondage to the Devil. You've heard people who are struggling with some sin or personal issues, etc.,  viewed as "those who are struggling with their Demons?". Well, that's not entirely a unbiblical idiom. Because in Scripture physical insanity was used by God as a symbol of one whose mind was spiritually ill or sick, being in bondage to Satan's delusion. God uses man's mental maladies to illustrate they are spiritually fools, simpletons or insanity in Scripture to paint a portrait of those who spiritually do not think or act with sound reasoning. By being deceived by Satan their mind is "not right" as it is a slave to confusion and turmoil. And this is where we get the term "Spiritual Insanity." It is a spiritual disorder of the mind that comes from having a spirit of delusion, a type of spiritual psychosis of those whose mind is not set free in Christ. In Spiritual insanity the truth seems like a lie and what is sound seems unsound, what is right seems wrong, the mind is in total spiritual confusion.

2nd Timothy 1:7
  • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

The opposite of the sound or sober mind of true Christians is spiritual insanity. It is when the spirit is not right and one's mind is not sober or sound. For example, Christ miraculously healed a man that was insane, which (like all of the miracles Christ did) painted this portrait of God's miraculous power to bring healing to the spiritually sick mind through the efficacy of His death and resurrection. i.e., the physical miraculous healing of the insane man was a "sign" or token of the Spiritual healing of our spiritual insanity. e.g.:

Mark 5:1-8
  • "And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
  • And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
  • Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
  • Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
  • And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
  • But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
  • And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
  • For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit."

God uses the demon's control over the mind of this man as a picture of mankind before they are set free of bondage to Satan. The man who was "not in his right mind" was a insane man divinely used of Christ as a token of all those in bondage to the Devil and who dwell in the tombs (presence of death) and who are spiritually as a wild and raging beast that cannot be tamed. Christ's healing of this man is illustrative of the power of God to bring the peace of a sound mind to the Spiritually Insane. This man was miraculously healed as a sign to illustrate Christ's miraculous power in salvation.

Mark 5:15
  • "And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid."

Here again we see the possession of the Devil equated to being unsaved and out of his mind, whereas Christ's healing removes the Devil and heals the sin sick mind. The man was set free of the Devil and given a sober mind, a right mind, the mind of Christ in His blessed hope.

1st Peter 1:13
  • "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ/i];"

When we are saved we are Spiritually clothed in the righteousness of Christ and SThe sober mind is the right mind. A mind where spiritually (in our right mind) the Devil has been cast out of us. In its pragmatic sense, spiritual insanity is the worldly unsound aversion to reconciliation with God, a mindless rejection of receiving the truth and righteousness, a fool's errand to remain in bondage to the Devil and sin. We could just as easily call it a spiritual foolishness or a spiritual delusion, but it's all pointing to the same unsound spiritual condition or disorder.

2nd Thessalonians 2:9-13
  • "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
  • And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
  • And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
  • That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
  • But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"

Spiritual delusion or spiritual insanity, the mind that is fooled, beguiled or duped. The moral of this story of 2nd Thessalonians, not all in the church will receive the truth in love, because many don't love the truth. They love self-justification over truth. This strong delusion is a spirit of fraudulence where one a mind that allows them to believe sinful man's lies and deceptions. In practical terms, it is a spirit of straying from orthodoxy or sound Christian principles in this rejection of the truth. How many times have you seen this realized? You witness to someone the obvious and unadulterated truth of Scripture (word for word), and yet they reject God's word of truth for man made interpretations? That's exactly what that passage says, they just won't receive the truth in love. Truly, they don't really know what love is, because to them truth appears loveless, judgmental and arrogant.

These passages are divinely inspired of God to have us recognize the spiritual delusion in the bondage of the Devil. In its truest form, delusion is nothing but man's own deceitful will that moves him to dishonestly work against the truth. The spirit of the beast makes them  spiritually insane, their mind being in spiritual slavery.

By contrast, that last verse reiterates he truth of the sober thinking Christian:

2nd Thessalonians 2:13
  • "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"

Beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.  Therein is the difference between the Elect of the church blessed with sound minds that believe the truth when they hear it, and the false or pseudo Christians with unsound minds deluded to trample the truth under foot in their zeal to justify themselves and their own will. Why? Because unlike the insane man God healed, God did not truly through the Spirit give them a right/sound mind. They merely took His name upon themselves, but never His Spirit. Again:

2nd Timothy 1:7
  • "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

The Spirit is the power of a sound mind. Christians are to be sober minded, as opposed to having a mind of fearfulness and of confusion and unrest and turmoil, which is this type of spiritual disorder. Spiritual insanity is the secret persona of the Devil within man that provokes and causes fear and unrest where people are careful of many things, the least of which is service to God. Perfect love casts out fear. Hope that helps a little.

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Re: What is Spiritual Insanity?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2018, 05:32:14 AM »
Tony,
   I've only been here a short period of time as you know but I am impressed with the knowledge of scripture I see presented here. My question is what is this spiritual insanity that you and others have referenced from time to time. I've never heard it mentioned anywhere but here so if you could enlighten me, I would be most grateful. Thanks.

It's what we see all over the world today as Satan is loosed to wreck havoc upon society and assure the unfaithful church receives in themselves the name of the beast.

 Pr 23:9  Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
 10  Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:
 11 For their redeemer is mighty; he shall plead their cause with thee.
 12  Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.



 


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