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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #75 on: December 25, 2019, 03:35:46 AM »
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Everyone has tattoos these days.
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Everyone? Do I count? The fact is, there are more people without Tattoos than with them. Even if what you said was true, numbers don't make something either right or wrong in God's eyes. i.e., the world is immoral. Does that mean that Christians can't be against immorality?


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It's so silly to say that you're against tattoos.
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No sillier than my saying I'm against women wearing string Bikinis in public or men wearing speedos.


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So many Christians have tattoos and they find nothing in scripture forbidding it.
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This is true. Likewise, so many Christians lie, have women pastors, get divorced, justify sin, have premarital sex, and they find nothing in scripture forbidding it. ...or so they say. What does that prove? I mean besides that "a tree is known by its fruits?"


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When you talked about tight dresses I let it slide because some people are just prudes, but this idea is beyond legalistic.
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You're using the words prude and legalistic in a way that it implies something wrong. In other words, where prude is used in place of being conscionable or having some morality, and here legalistic is used in place of having respect unto God's laws. If that is what you mean then "I'm guilty as charged."


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There is no prohibition in the bible against Tattoos.
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There's also no prohibition in the Bible against child pornography. ...except that there is. You won't find those exact words there, but one only has to receive the whole counsel of God in the mind and wisdom of Christ.


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Furthermore, it's really not your place to tell women their blouse is too tight.
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OK!  Is it God's place? Or should people do what seems right in their own eyes, ignoring His counsel? Here again we have the age-old question of will.


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Keep your eyes away from that area and you'll have no problem.  )S_Confused(
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Here's the question. Is the deceived the only guilty party in God's eyes, or is the deceiver guilty as well? Selah.

Don't be confused, use God's law rather than your own.


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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #76 on: December 26, 2019, 12:39:10 AM »
Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?

Should Christians get tattoos on their face, get giant rings in their nose, eyebrows, tongue, or wear mini skirts, make totem poles, get divorced, sell their daughters, take drugs, hold slaves, and all the other things that the world does just because it might be the "thing" or latest fad, or popular? I think Tony answered your question. We can be like the world or we can be set apart distinct from the world, a uncommon people. If you want to be like the world, no one is forcing you to comply with Christian distinctives. But this is how some Christians feel they should behave in the household of God. I find no fault with what Tony Said.

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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #77 on: December 26, 2019, 03:55:14 AM »
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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2020, 03:34:58 AM »
I think Tony answered your question. We can be like the world or we can be set apart distinct from the world, a uncommon people. If you want to be like the world, no one is forcing you to comply with Christian distinctives. But this is how some Christians feel they should behave in the household of God. I find no fault with what Tony Said.

 )amen( Like Tony Said, some Christians want to live as close to the world as they can and still be called Christian. And some Christians like to live set apart from the world and as close to Christ as they can.

I wonder what Betty thinks God means when he says friendship with the world is enmity with God. Betty, can you please explain that for us. What is friendship with the world?


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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2020, 11:12:11 AM »

That is not cool Zero. There are too many nonsensical answers on this website. Do you know how many Christians in this country have tattoos?  And you want to condemn them all? Just to name a few famous Christians, there is Justin Beiber, Tim McGraw, Victoria Beckham, David Beckham, Colin Kaepernick, and so on. So what should they do? Conform to your bigotry against those with tattoos? Live and let live buddy.

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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #80 on: January 02, 2020, 03:03:55 PM »
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There are too many nonsensical answers on this website.

Of course, you do not like what you read here since, based on your past posts here on MR, you have refused to receive the truth.  Despite Tony's article on Tattoos filled with Scripture, you have not offered anything to refute it WITH Scripture.  Just personal opionions and emotional reactions.   

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Do you know how many Christians in this country have tattoos?

So?

Do you know how many Christians in this country has divorced their spouse despite their wedding vows before God?
Do you know how many Christians in this country has remarried someone else while their original spouse still lives?
Do you know how many Christians in this country has not raise their children Godly way?
Do you know how many Christians in this country has wear immodesty to draw attention with their flesh?
Do you know how many Christians in this country who are homosexuality, transgender, or in gender identity mess?
Do you know how many Christians in this country believe sin false doctrine of dispensationalism...and faith in Trump?
Do you know how many Christians in this country who supports women headship in the Church? 

And your point is, Betty?  Are you trying to remove the boundaries of the church with the world thinking God wants us to be happy, have equalities, and show love with tolerate those who sins against God? You think that you are being progressive, loving and compassionate, you SHALL stand NAKED before God and see your own shame, denial, and condition of the heart.

Tattoo is not something fad or for good intentions that Christians should have, "thinking" is right in our eyes, is NO EXCUSE for DISOBEDIENCE. Remember about the man who grabbed the Ark when the Oxen stumbled, 1st Chronicles 13:9-10. 

The sins of the unfaithful church has reached into heaven...and many professed Christians refuse to knowledge it becasue of their blindness and disobedience.

Sign of the times.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)

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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #81 on: January 02, 2020, 06:04:02 PM »
Rev 18:2,6,8
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
6 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Yes indeed, signs of the times.
“Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”
Proverbs 30:5,6

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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #82 on: May 10, 2020, 12:42:05 PM »
It's so silly to say that you're against tattoos.
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No sillier than my saying I'm against women wearing string Bikinis in public or men wearing speedos.

It's none of your business if a woman has a bikini on, a woman has tattoos on her body, or a man wears a speedo. Keep your eyes away from areas they shouldn't be and don't be judgemental.

Matthew 18:9 (TLB)
"And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. Better to enter heaven with one eye than to be in hell with two."

If you are offended by Tattoos, don't look at the. If you are offended by bikini-clad women, turn away from them. If you are offended by speedo wearing men, stop looking at them. Those are all your problems.


 

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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2020, 03:31:09 AM »
It's so silly to say that you're against tattoos.
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No sillier than my saying I'm against women wearing string Bikinis in public or men wearing speedos.

It's none of your business if a woman has a bikini on, a woman has tattoos on her body, or a man wears a speedo. Keep your eyes away from areas they shouldn't be and don't be judgemental.

It's every Christian's business if Christian women act in an immoral manner, and to say it is not, just shows how far the Christian church has fallen. They're starting to use the same language as the unsaved do, wear the same clothes as the unsaved do, and walk in the flesh as the unsaved do. It's so incredibly naive to say just don't look at something if you don't like it. Can we have naked people walk in public and say, just don't look at her if you don't like it? That's incredibly stupid.

Tattoos are a sign of the times, and I don't mean for the good. You're claiming that tattoos are just the result of a more progressive society, but that's not progress, it's decline. This growth of Americans getting tattoos all over themselves is a move back to primitive times, not a move to better things. Even in places like Japan that has, for the most part, managed to keep this type decline out of their country for so long is falling to modern pressure. Look at this video and tell me it's not a sign of social decline. It's not a good and moral thing, it's the start of the downfall of society even apart from Christianity. Because morality is in decline in every country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjwc6uo6rE&t=622s






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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2020, 11:15:34 AM »
Melanie, the passages in the Old Testament against tattoos and cuttings in the skin no longer applies to us because it is Old Testament law, and thus not for Christians. We are under New Testament grace.

As for Japan, they have hardly any Christians so grace is immaterial to them or their way of thinking.
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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2020, 02:16:24 PM »
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Melanie, the passages in the Old Testament against tattoos and cuttings in the skin no longer applies to us because it is Old Testament law, and thus not for Christians. We are under New Testament grace.

Really?

Okay, so the prohibitions against incest in Leviticus 18:8-18 and 20:11:21, Deuteronomy, etc. does not apply to us in New Testament? Does that means Christians are allowed to have incest today? No?

Likewise with Tattoo. Tattoos are NOT a Christian activity no matter how much justification you might come up with.  It is an abnormal, unseemly and unnatural practice for Christians. Branding ourselves with markings or tattoos is to pervert and deface the body that God has already defined as "HIS" Holy Temple. Didn't you read the Scripture?

1st Corinthians 6:19-20
  • "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
  • For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."
Since our bodies are the New Testament Temple of the Lord, we should NOT mark or disfigure it as if we could paint graffiti on the stones of a church buildings!  Won't our bodies of greater important a witness than a church building?  Do you think a Godly man would want to marries a professed Chrstian woman who do not think there is anything wrong with her "tramp stamp" on her lower-back?  What kind of testimony does her body mean to him?  Glory to God?  Listen, your body belongs to the Lord, do you honestly think He gave you the permission to put markings on your body because after all we are under grace and we can do whatever we want with our body, right?  Do you think we are allowed to abuse our bodies with sexuality immoralities, abortion of the child inside you, drug, smoking, gluttony, cursings that comes out of our mouths, while knowing that Christ rules in our bodies, the temple of the Lord?

Think again!
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)

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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2020, 06:53:30 PM »
Melanie, the passages in the Old Testament against tattoos and cuttings in the skin no longer applies to us because it is Old Testament law, and thus not for Christians. We are under New Testament grace.

As for Japan, they have hardly any Christians so grace is immaterial to them or their way of thinking.
Rose you do err in your doctrine, the old covenant law is not abolished and done away for the Christian, it’s kept in Christ. Remember his Word.

Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
“Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”
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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2020, 12:56:26 PM »
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Melanie, the passages in the Old Testament against tattoos and cuttings in the skin no longer applies to us because it is Old Testament law, and thus not for Christians.
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Erik and Mark have made some good points that you should consider. You should also understand that the Laws against Tattoos weren't instituted to protect your skin from drawings, it was instituted so that you know to make a difference between you as the children of God, and the pagan people who don't know God. People get all hung up on "it's all about grace, or it's unseemly, or it only applies if you do it for the dead, or it's just for the Old Testament, etc."  They're missing the whole point. It was instituted because God wants His people to be a distinct, holy, separated people. In spirit, dress, presence, and outward form that we don't appear as the world does. That law of distinction in being set apart still stands. Unfortunately, no one seems to care anymore.

As has been stated, is the prohibitions against incest abolished because we are under New Testament grace? God forbid. The Old Testament law against Homosexuality still applies in the New Testament, doesn't it? Or is that law destroyed n grace also? So we see that the laws are still for Christians, and for everyone else. The laws were not destroyed because Christ brought grace, they were fulfilled (satisfied) in Christ's work on the cross. Thus a Homosexual is still under the wrath of God--unless he has found Christ. Then and only then is he not under that law anymore, "not" because that law was abolished, but because that law was fulfilled in the work of Christ. In other words, it was finished/completed in Christ so that its wages/penalty doesn't exist for that particular person. In that way only the law doesn't apply to them because in God's eyes they are seen as perfect and sinless before Him. That doesn't mean we sin because we have abundant grace.

Romans 6:15
  • "What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid."

Think about it. How could we sin (a violation of the law) in that instance "if" the law was destroyed or sin (violation of law) no longer existed?  Will we sin or violate God's "laws" that don't really exist anymore because grace abounds? Or s Spirit-led saints will we "not sin" because we have the Spirit of obedience? God forbid we break God's law because we are under grace. On the contrary, we are actually a new creature/creation in Christ who (of His Spirit) now have an earnest desire to "keep" the law.

Proverbs 28:4-5
  • "They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
  • Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things."

The prohibition of getting tattoos, cuttings, etc., were instituted of God to "separate" the customs of God's people from those of the people of the world. Of course, in our day God's people are so intent on getting as close to "identical to the world" as they can. And yet they still want to be seen as God's separated, set-apart, holy People. But it's a contradiction. The point of Christianity is not to "blend in" as like-minded but to "stand out" as diverse or as a different people. You cannot be different if you envy the wicked so much that you are unmarried and sexually active just like they are. Or you are divorcing just like the unsaved are. Or tattooing like the unsaved, dressing like the unsaved, talking, dancing, and doing everything else the unsaved come up with. Where then is the difference? There is none and you are lying to yourself if you believe that there is. In such instances, you show that you have the same carnal will of the natural man that is ruled by the flesh.

1st Corinthians 14:8
  • "For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?"
James 4:4-5
  • "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
  • Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?"

If we Christians give an uncertain sound where we are visually all over the place, non-distinctive, having no different appearance, definite doctrines, respect for law, or moral values, then we're no different than the world is. No wonder we want Tattoos, divorce, short dresses, spikes in our tongues and rings in our noses. That should not be because we are ordained to be peculiar or a different people than those of the world. In other words, ours should be a definitive sound, a lifestyle that is diverse from that of the world. Not friendship or agreement with the world, but a distinction as a "special" people set apart from the world. That's what the whole "don't be yoked together with unbelievers" is all about. Distinction. And that's what is missing with today's unfaithful Christians. A lack of understanding of what "set-apart" actually entails.

Deuteronomy 14:2
  • "For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth."

God'speople are a "peculiar" people, meaning a shut up or separated people, a special traesure that is not to be like any other people. The unfaithful interpret this to mean we can dress, act, dance, be unlawful, just like the world. Only use Christ's name claiming grace. Not true. We have been chosen and called out of the darkness of the world into God's marvelous light and made a chosen family or generation (1st Peter 2:9). There are only two families, the generation of Satan who are children of darkness, and the generation of Christ who are children of light. These two families are at enmity one with another, not in agreement. What agreement has light with darkness. We are special people and we should appear, act, and dress the part.


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It's already been testified:

Matthew 5:16-18
  • "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
  • Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
  • For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

New Testament Grace is the fulfillment of the law in Christ Jesus, not the destruction of it. Are we now free to violate the Old Testament law against murder because we are under grace? Not at all, the law stands, but the price has been paid in Christ's blood. We keep the law of the sacrificial lamb in the eternal sacrifice of Christ, the law of the sabbath of rest in Christ Jesus, the law of feasts, of going up to Jerusalem three times a year, the law of Passover, the law of water ablutions, etc. etc., all in Christ Jesus. If we were free to violate God's Old Testament laws, we could with clear conscience steal, murder, marry siblings, be homosexual, and yes, get tattoos, etc., because these are all Old Testament laws. But the fact of truth is, all these laws illustrate some moral principle that cannot simply be cast aside because they existed in the Old Testament. They had the "ritual" law of ablutions in the Old Testament, and although we no longer physically do many of those washings, what they "represented" was our washing in Christ, which still must be kept or else we (anyone not washed) are still unclean according to the Old Testament law of God, which stands. i.e., the law of washing still stands because without washing all are unclean according to that law.


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Rose, the gospel of truth is not "immaterial" to anyone, much less those in dire need of it. To write off a nation simply because there are few Christians there is to have departed from the love of God in forsaking the great commission. The First command is to love God and the second like unto it--that we love our neighbor as ourselves. If we abandon that agape calling, we might as well be as stars fallen from their former estate in heaven. Evangelism or spreading the gospel to the world is the labor of all faithful Christians. If we have no desire to do that, then how are we representative lights of Christ? To the star of Ephesus God warns:

Revelation 2:5
  • "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent."

We will be as a fallen star that is no longer of the church of God if we do not do the first works of the church.

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Re: Should Christians Get Tattoos and Body Piercings?
« Reply #88 on: May 18, 2020, 12:10:01 PM »
Should Christians get tattoos on their face, get giant rings in their nose, eyebrows, tongue, or wear mini skirts,

Christians can do anything they like because they have liberty and are not under the law. They are under grace. That is why you don't have to sacrifice a sheep anymore. If Tony is under law, why isn't he sacrificing sheep and keeping the Passover? And don't give me any of that "we are keeping it" nonsense. You aren't keeping those laws.

 


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