apostasion simply means separation, which is the same thing as putting away. I don't believe that it stands by that Greek word. Would you say the dragon and the serpent represent two different things because they are different words. I don't believe that, because they are synonyms.
Very well stated Sue. Both the words divorce and putting away are illustrating a separation. It's no more complicated than that. But leave it to willful man to complicate something for his own purposes. The two words are synonymous in meaning, and this can be easily seen in their root meaning. The Greek word [apoluo] often used for "putting away" is from the two root Greek words [apo] meaning off, and [luo] meaning to loose. To be off from or to loose from, and by extension it means to be separate from.
Loose is a word used for separated or "not joined." Likewise the Greek word [apostasion] from divorce is derived from the root Greek word [aphistemi] meaning to be removed from. i.e., to be put away from or removed away from. So clearly it basically means the very same thing as the word translated "put away." Namely, it is simply a separation of something, or a being loosed or removed away from something.
As a practical example, the word used in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 translated "falling away" in describing the apostasy of the church, is [apostasia] and is derived from the "EXACT" same word [apostasion]. Again, it simply means a separation
or "removing away" from the faith. So the two Greek words are synonymous with each other in meaning. A removing away or a putting away is the same thing. This "theory" that these two words carry some different meaning is self-serving and groundless as far as scripture goes. This kind of thing is often brought about by the grammatical-historical form of interpretation, which is an unsound hermeneutic.
I think that is just more justification of divorce without any real basis for it. I don't read anywhere that God made a distinction between putting away your wife and divorcement.
Thank God for the faithfulness of His people. Yes, unfortunately you are right again. Particularly about the inherent "humanistic" deceit and underpinnings of such declarations. As I've said many times, whatever man wants, he can imagine in his heart the justification to have it. Jeremiah 16:12
- "And ye have done worse than your fathers; for, behold, ye walk every one after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not hearken unto me:"
The same man of lawlessness in the house of faith, making up precepts so that he can walk every one after the imagination of his own heart. Lawlessness is found in not hearkening to God's commandments, refusing to receive the love of truth. And why? Because man wants
to divorce, and more importantly, he wants
to remarry. He doesn't really like what God says about hating this. And because he wants to have the avenue of being loosed from the marriage bonds (as did the Pharisees) to be joined to another, he wrests scripture in order to have it his way. The "why" man does this is simple, if we understand the nature of man. It's the deceivers purporting biblical justification that makes God's laws seem complicated or not applicable. Mark 10:2
- ""And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him."
Clearly they are asking about divorce by linking put away [apoluo
] with the bill of divorcement [apostasion
] and Moses.Mark 10:3-4
- "And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?
- And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away".
Again, clearly they are referring to the bill of divorce as putting her away.
Clearly this bill of divorcement that you could put away your wife represents the same thing, not two separate things. By writing a bill of divorcement, you would have lawfully put her away (divorced her).
..and all God's people said A M E N !
There is not one single scripture that illustrates that putting away was not divorce. This is an eisegesis of the text, not something that is actually there.Ezra 10:3
- "Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law."
Clearly, those strangers they had married contrary to the law of God, they divorced. And the word used for this promise of divorcement is "put away," or [yatsa
], meaning to go away from, or separate from. Again, clearly here, as you have demonstrated in the chapter of Mark, the phrase "put away" is used synonymously with divorce.
...of course, not that any of this will convince anyone who seeks divorce or remarriage, nor justification of it. Because man will always find ways to get around the word of God.Deuteronomy 5:32
- "Ye shall observe to do therefore as the LORD your God hath commanded you: ye shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left."
Yet they will not hearken unto the Lord and they turn to the right, and they turn to the left so that the don't have to see what is right in front of them. This is nothing new in God's house.
..in which case there would be no 'adultery' in a new marriage since the previous marriage has been legally ended, thus allowing the put away woman to remarry withouth incurring in adultery.
That ignores the rest of the bible which commands there is no legal ending of marriage because what God hath joined together no man is to put asunder.
It's very easy to come to wrong conclusions when we don't take the whole
Bible into consideration and just pick and choose verses where the Greek can be subtly manipulated. If we only receive certain truths that we like and ignore the rest, we can believe anything.Matthew 19:5
- "And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
- Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, Let not man put asunder."
That means no separation, no loosing, no divorce. This is God's command that today's Christians refuse to hearken to. Translated by today's Christians it must mean, "What God has joined together, man can pull it asunder if he gives her a bill of divorcement as Moses commanded." And this is the very definition of deceit. Indeed, the Church today has made this law of God
pretty much null and void
. They have almost completely eliminated it from God's word, not by literally removing it from the paper of the book, but by ignoring it in their actions. And all it took was a Pastor declaring that they could receive a bill of divorcement and were ree to remarry.Matthew 19:7-8
- "They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
- He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."
Again, they effectively remove completely Christ's answer to them against writing a bill of divorcement
and against putting your wife away and against the Old Testament Law of Moses allowing divorce, and they proceed "as if"
Christ really hadn't
addressed the question of if Divorce was still allowed at all. Like everything Christ just said could be nullified by another passage.
Because they "want" divorce and remarriage to be lawful, and so they ignore, trample under foot, or twist/wrest any scriptures that declares it not lawful. Today the Church practices what we call "dueling scriptures," where they pit one scripture against another to make biblical conclusions seem
- "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
But God knows it, and He is not mocked by appearances, by sophistry or Greek manipulation.
Not surprising, but still a little insight into the deceit that Christians will accept if it is with a slick presentation.
Amen! "Deceit" is the operative word. And let's not kid ourselves, man would accept divorce even without a slick presentation because
to. i.e., it's the will of man at work in the Church again forsaking the will of God. An apostasy or separation from the true faith! The "eye" is the window to the world and man has seen carnality. He has pleasure in it just like the unbelievers. The word of God declaring that, "if thine eye offends thee, pluck it out
," is pretty much meaningless today. Only the true child of God will have the strong desire to do the will of God and to receive the truth in (or because in it he finds) love. The rest will all look for self justification and seek ways where they can claim to be following God, and yet continue to do their own will
rather than His. That is why we have had this great plague of divorce and remarriage crop up and spread like wildfire in the Church. Where is the balm? Where is the medicine? Where is the ointment? Where is the physicians of the Church to lay hands on the sick to fight this plague? Their treatment of this is with wormwood and their sores are covered in the soot of self justification?2nd Thessalonians 2:3
- "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
A putting away, a separating, a divorcing oneself from the faith once delivered unto the saints! It's all the same thing! And as Judas was the son of perdition and yet a part of the 12, so there are those in the Church today who are sons of perdition and yet are a part of the Church. Satan has deceived them and they have fallen away as surely as Satan entered Judas to betray Christ for the flesh. 2nd Thessalonians 2 speaks of the "putting away" of the love of truth. In other words, when Christians no longer love truth, but seek to justify lawlessness. That is how lawlessness is the rule seated in that holy temple. It is man's separation from the truth, which happens to those in the house of faith. Using the Greek deceitfully as a means to accomplish this is just part of the great picture, the great deception. Behold Christ has told us before, and we've seen it before. Even in this forum. And we'll see it again.Jeremiah 17:9-10
- "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
- I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings."
Divorce and remarriage is an unruly evil plague on both society in general and the Church in particular. But it's made even worse when you have the so-called leaders and ministers of the Church bending over backwards to justify it.nosce te ipsum
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"