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Re: Why Do the Wicked Prosper?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2005, 11:50:15 PM »
Psalms 73

1 A Psalm of Asaph. Truly God is good to the upright, to those who are pure in heart. 2 But as for me, my feet had almost stumbled, my steps had well nigh slipped. 3 For I was envious of the arrogant, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. 4 For they have no pangs; their bodies are sound and sleek. 5 They are not in trouble as other men are; they are not stricken like other men. 6 Therefore pride is their necklace; violence covers them as a garment. 7 Their eyes swell out with fatness, their hearts overflow with follies. 8 They scoff and speak with malice; loftily they threaten oppression. 9 They set their mouths against the heavens, and their tongue struts through the earth. 10 Therefore the people turn and praise them; and find no fault in them. 11 And they say, "How can God know? Is there knowledge in the Most High?" 12 Behold, these are the wicked; always at ease, they increase in riches. 13 All in vain have I kept my heart clean and washed my hands in innocence. 14 For all the day long I have been stricken, and chastened every morning. 15 If I had said, "I will speak thus," I would have been untrue to the generation of thy children. 16 But when I thought how to understand this, it seemed to me a wearisome task, 17 until I went into the sanctuary of God; then I perceived their end. 18 Truly thou dost set them in slippery places; thou dost make them fall to ruin. 19 How they are destroyed in a moment, swept away utterly by terrors! 20 They are like a dream when one awakes, on awaking you despise their phantoms. 21 When my soul was embittered, when I was pricked in heart, 22 I was stupid and ignorant, I was like a beast toward thee. 23 Nevertheless I am continually with thee; thou dost hold my right hand. 24 Thou dost guide me with thy counsel, and afterward thou wilt receive me to glory. 25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? And there is nothing upon earth that I desire besides thee. 26 My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion for ever. 27 For lo, those who are far from thee shall perish; thou dost put an end to those who are false to thee. 28 But for me it is good to be near God; I have made the Lord GOD my refuge, that I may tell of all thy works.
Selah,
Glenda

Thank you Glenda for this excellent passage! 

This one passage touches upon pretty much all the Sciptures and themes presented by everyone, and really hits home. It well illustrates the weakness of the flesh and even at times of the heart (verse 26) which we have all succombed to at times, and for which there is only one remedy -- to go to the 'sanctuary' of God's Word, and seek His guidance, unfailing strength and forgiveness.

I had to smile a bit at verse 14....
14 For all the day long I have been stricken, and chastened every morning.

It's the Lord who chastizes and restrains us from going off the path.  And it's only as we grow in Grace that we can look back with understanding (like an adult looks back at discipline received from a loving parent, which may have appeared unfair or harsh at the time), and say,Thank you Lord!  or... But for the Grace of God, there go I!

Pro 3:31  Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways.
Pro 3:32  For the froward is abomination to the LORD: but his secret is with the righteous.
Pro 3:33  The curse of the LORD is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.
Pro 3:34  Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.

Pro 23:17  Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the LORD all the day long.



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Re: Why Do the Wicked Prosper?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2005, 09:39:25 AM »
For I was envious of the arrogant, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. 4 For they have no pangs; their bodies are sound and sleek. 5 They are not in trouble as other men are; they are not stricken like other men. Selah,
Glenda

Glenda, your signature line really says it all, doesn't it.

And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou? Daniel 4:35

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Re: Why Do the Wicked Prosper?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2005, 10:43:30 AM »
Mitchell,
You should go on a short-term volunteer mission trip to a third-world country, where the emphasis is church building, evangelization, etc...

That will give you the perspective you need to find the answer to your question.

There are Christians throughout the 3rd world; who have nothing for possessions, dirt floors, dung-walls, grass roofs...at best; who have maybe one set of clothes, who have disease, malformity, and who live in dire and horrendous worldly conditions.

Yet, because of their Godward eyes, eyes that are from above, and of which see the glory of God that is revealed to them, are some of the happiest, joyous, giving, and content people on the planet.

They are most truly blessed....not by fleshly, carnal, worldly standards...but by the true fruit, riches, and treasures that exist; and that only come from above.

Get away from America for a couple of weeks, and see if that won't answer your question.  You'll probably find the excesses and the waste in your life sickening...and far from 'blessing'

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Re: Why Do the Wicked Prosper?
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2011, 07:15:32 PM »
There are Christians throughout the 3rd world; who have nothing for possessions, dirt floors, dung-walls, grass roofs...at best; who have maybe one set of clothes, who have disease, malformity, and who live in dire and horrendous worldly conditions.

Yet, because of their Godward eyes, eyes that are from above, and of which see the glory of God that is revealed to them, are some of the happiest, joyous, giving, and content people on the planet.

They are most truly blessed....not by fleshly, carnal, worldly standards...but by the true fruit, riches, and treasures that exist; and that only come from above.

 And contrast that with most Christians in this country, and most of the so-called civilized world. If they miss a vacation, satelite TV or even lunch, they act as if it is the end of the world. Talk about spoiled. If we can't send all our kids to college, we're considered failures. Is this what life is all about? I don't think so.


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Re: Why Do the Wicked Prosper?
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2011, 03:15:07 PM »

 I think there is a quote that goes, "All it takes for wickedness to prosper is for good men to do nothing."  Sounds good to me. Anyone heard a quote like that before. I'm sure I heard it somewhere.


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Re: Why Do the Wicked Prosper?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2011, 05:57:59 PM »
>>>
I think there is a quote that goes, "All it takes for wickedness to prosper is for good men to do nothing."  Sounds good to me. Anyone heard a quote like that before. I'm sure I heard it somewhere.
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Yup,
 "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
                        English philosopher -Edmund Burke
                  
Not a biblical quote, but one PERFECTLY in line with what the Bible teaches (See the Parable of the Good Samaritan, the Watchmen of Ezekiel 3:17-18, the parable of the talents hid in the earth, etc., etc). Doing nothing in the face of evil or wickedness is not an option for the true Christian. The problem is, there aren't many true Christians, because most think their obligation boils down to simply saying they are Christian and not doing anything overtly evil. They go to work, they come home. They go to work, they come home. They take care of their kids, and their day is done. Advancing the Kingdom is someone else's job. But doing nothing for the Kingdom is no work at all. Not that we are saved by works, but that work is part of being saved. Or to put it another way:

Matthew 5:14-16
  • "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
  • Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
  • Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

Some Christians think that the light is only for themselves, their own salvation, their own prosperity, their own well being. Thus they spend all their time in the cares of this world, on comfortable living, getting along, higher education, feeling good about themselves, with no thought to their neighbor not his Spiritual well being. This is not the meaning of life, nor the whole duty of man.

"nosce te ipsum"
 
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Tony Warren
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Re: Why Do the Wick ed Prosper?
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2011, 12:46:54 PM »
Hi Mitchell ........1Cor. Verse 12 gives another angle on your question:

[1] Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
[2] Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
[3] Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
[4]Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit
[5] And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
[6] And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
[7] But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
[8] For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9] To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[10] To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
[11] But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
[12] For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
[13] For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
[14] For the body is not one member, but many.
[15] If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[16] And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
[17] If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
[18] But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
[19] And if they were all one member, where were the body?
[20] But now are they many members, yet but one body.
[21] And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
[22] Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
[23] And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
[24] For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:
[25] That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
[26] And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
[27] Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
[28] And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
[29] Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
[30] Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
[31] But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

Others have faithfully given you many reasons in answer to your legitimate questions, and I would also commend you for giving thanks in this regard. You are in the right place for hearing kind words of encouragement and biblical accuracy. As for those of this world who seem to prosper while good people suffer? As you move along in your walk with Christ, being born again of The Spirit, the mind of Christ will begin to reveal some honest truths to your soul and your very questions will be answered naturally.

1 Cor. 2

[13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
[16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Yes, there are those in the body of Christ who are what we might call "well off" but that is not our concern either. The important thing is for all of us to find our place (where God wills us to be) within Christ's Church. Many a Christian has died on the battlefield, been lost to natural disasters, and all manner of tragedy. However, as others have mentioned, they now reside with Christ in the heavenly place. Keep asking Mitchell, continue to seek that which is on your heart, and remember those of us in the body of Christ are to be here for one another. Sometimes the answers will seem harsh, but it's been those times where I rejoice in the true word of God the most.

We all go to our just reward in the end. In time, you may discover an actual sense of pity for those of whom you speak.

Luke 23

[40] But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
[41] And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
[42] And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
[43] And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

 


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