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Tony Warren

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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2010, 09:42:54 AM »
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 I often wonder, what does growing in grace really mean.
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Since every part of our new life in Christ is the result of grace, we are to seek to change our being in this body of this death, to conform to Him. Thus to grow in grace means to mature to become more like the Lord Jesus Christ. To show increase in that which constitutes true Christian values, the opposite of worldly ones. In other words, because we live in this robe of flesh, there should be cultivation and growth just as we might see in any other type planting. If we have Root in Christ, we should grow in knowledge and understanding through the Spirit, the more we study God's word.

2nd Timothy 2:15
  • "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

The more we study, the more we grow in Grace and favor of God (are approved) having a better knowledge and understanding more correctly the doctrines of Christ.

2nd Peter 3:18
  • "But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen."

How do we grow in favor and the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ? by knowing more and more about Him, which comes by the Holy Spirit through the knowledge of the word. And we don't just pray for our own knowledge, but for the knowledge of others, that they may grow as well. The more we grow, the more we will walk in this life according to the image of God.

Collossians 1:9-10
  • "For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
  • That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;"

Unto all pleasing or favor of God. We are transformed into the image of the Lord Jesus Christ spiritually when we are saved, but to grow in grace means to become more like the Lord Jesus Christ in the body, through knowledge of perfect righteousness. To bring the flesh into subjection using the reigns to pull away from the path of the world, to the path of Christ. To walk circumspectly, doing that which is well pleasing to God, rather than to ourselves. The more we grow in knowledge, the more we utilize grace and apply the word as real nourishment to live by, rather than just giving lip service to living by it.

1st Peter 2:2-3
  • "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
  • If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious."

As a newborn baby earnestly desires milk and grows by it, we should earnestly desire the word, that we may grow thereby. And you know you are growing in grace when you find you have an earnest desire for the word unadulterated by men. When you read and find you have the desire to do the will of God, and not your own. then and only then is their real growth. When you find a steady advancement in knowledge through the word of God, rather than through the words of men, you are growing in Grace. You are receiving an increased knowledge of the divine will of God. Knowledge that intimately connects the favor of God to our own life, through the word.

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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #76 on: February 16, 2010, 08:09:39 AM »
Since every part of our new life in Christ is the result of grace, we are to seek to change our being in this body of this death, to conform to Him. Thus to grow in grace means to mature to become more like the Lord Jesus Christ. To show increase in that which constitutes true Christian values, the opposite of worldly ones. In other words, because we live in this robe of flesh, there should be cultivation and growth just as we might see in any other type planting. If we have Root in Christ, we should grow in knowledge and understanding through the Spirit, the more we study God's word.

 Excellent. Thank you Tony for answering my question biblically. And for all you do in Christ's name.




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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2018, 03:49:29 PM »
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Listen Tony,
  You're not going to make any friends in the Reformed community with thoughts like that,
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...good point. But I'm really not trying to. Tradition (good or bad) is one thing, but faithfulness to God trumps tradition every time.


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Hi Tony,

I wanted to thank you for your posts in this thread as well as the one on “Gun Toting Ministers” as I found them quite encouraging. I know they are older posts, but I am just now reading them for the first time.

I too believe as you do regarding these matters but have never, until now, found anyone else who is “Reformed” who believes these things. That is why I found your posts so encouraging.

It is so refreshing to see someone who is actually willing to accept what the scriptures say on this matter without trying to explain them all away. Thank you brother!
Grace and Peace,

Michael

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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2018, 05:06:23 PM »
Spiritualizing liberals and teachers. What are we going to do?  )S_Confused(

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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2018, 08:51:32 PM »
Well, unlike what you think, spiritual truth is what the spiritual people stand for - Sola Scriptura.

Gal 6:1  Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Joh 6:63  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

And because that is how God keeps His new people (the spiritual Israel of God) well and strong:

Gal 6:12  As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
Gal 6:13  For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.
Gal 6:14  But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
Gal 6:15  For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
Gal 6:16  And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
እግዚኣብሄር ኣቦ ብወዱ ብጐይታ ክርስቶስ የሱስ ዓብዪ ግብሪ ምድሓን ገይሩልና ። ክብርን ምስጋናን ፡ ብስም ክርስቶስ የሱስ ንዕኡ ይኹኖ ። ኣሜን ።

ናይ ዘልኣለም ህይወት ፣ ብናይ ኣምላኽና ዘልኣለማዊ ጸጋ ። ንሱ ርእሲ ኹሉ ኮይኑ ፣ ንዘልኣለም ይነግስ ።

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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2018, 09:38:02 AM »
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Spiritualizing liberals. What are we going to do?  )S_Confused(
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I dunno David, revile them, bear false witness against them, lock them up, mock them, scourge them, spit on them, give them vinegar, crucify them? ...did I miss anything?

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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2018, 10:14:36 AM »
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Hi Tony,
I too believe as you do regarding these matters but have never, until now, found anyone else who is “Reformed” who believes these things. That is why I found your posts so encouraging.

It is so refreshing to see someone who is actually willing to accept what the scriptures say on this matter without trying to explain them all away. Thank you brother!
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AllofGrace,
   There are many, unfortunately not the prominent ones so you're less likely to hear or read them. But I appreciate your kind words and encourage you to continue to stand fast in the trurth of scripture, rather than in groups or traditions. God Bless.


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Re: Guns and the Bible
« Reply #82 on: November 09, 2018, 09:52:41 PM »
And now, for the other side of the story.

http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/qselfdefense.html


 


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