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Theology / Re: Does Election Preclude Evangelism?
« Last post by Eugene Coburn on October 04, 2018, 12:54:01 PM »
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Does Election Preclude Evangelism?

No, election actually causes evangelism. At least true evangelism rather than the Billy Graham kind.
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Miscellaneous Topics / Re: Republicans Sold Your Privacy to Internet Providers
« Last post by Philly Dawg on October 03, 2018, 12:44:58 PM »

Trump administration sues California over net neutrality law

https://www.change.org/p/save-net-neutrality-netneutrality/u/23353111

Allows Internet Providers to Slow you Down and Rob You!
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Theology / Re: Does Election Preclude Evangelism?
« Last post by savedbysovereigngrace99 on October 03, 2018, 09:31:09 AM »
Wow! Newbie Here. Just reading this thread and I would say that a lot of Calvinists would probably disagree. While I understand your position that Calvinists are not evangelistic to some degree (they would dispute that, but I don't), the position that they worship John Calvin might be a little to strong.

Have you actually read their books? It's all about Calvin and Christ is only a footnote. No, it's not too strong. Calvinists often insist that salvation is not about a decision, but a changed life, and certainly Christianity is about a changed life, but you cannot use one truth to overthrow another truth. The fact is that a decision is involved in salvation, and as much as Calvinists disparage such a thing as being “Decisional Regeneration,” the reality is that salvation is connected to calling upon the name of the Lord:

Romans 10:8-13: “But what does it say? ‘The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart’--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, ‘Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.’ For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for ‘Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.’”
Calvinist, Jeff Noblit, states: “The work of praying a ‘sinner’s prayer’ is not salvation. It can become a silly superstition and nothing more than a sacrament in Baptist clothes.” (A Southern Baptist Dialogue: Calvinism, p.98, emphasis mine)

Calling something a “silly superstition” is certainly mocking something, and the something happens to be a Gospel invitation. Calvinists are filled with resentment against the non-Calvinist presentation of the Gospel, which Calvinists deem as a “man-centered Gospel,” even decrying it as a “wicked” Gospel. When you get to this point, you realize that the Arminian charge against Calvinism leans more towards Reality, than towards Myth. Clearly, there is something significant involved here.

Calvinist, J.I. Packer, explains: “…the new gospel has in effect reformulated the biblical message.…we depict the Father and the Son, not as sovereignly active in drawing sinners to themselves, but as waiting in quiet impotence ‘at the door of our hearts’ for us to let them in.” (Introductory Essay to John Owen’s Death of Death in the Death of Christ, emphasis mine)

This is more mockery. This is the fruit of Calvinism, and how it affects the Gospel and evangelism.

Election is the godly motive for evangelism, for Paul writes 2 Tim 2:9-10

9 Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
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Theology / Re: What Does The 7 Churches of Asia Represent
« Last post by Robert Powell on October 03, 2018, 08:34:10 AM »
Or maybe angel means angel and your distortions are what may cause unintended consequences.


Wow! So you're going against your own "One True Holy Catholic Church?" Really?  because the Catholic Church teaches that the seven angels are men. The word “angel” (your church fathers say) refers to the bishop who stands as shepherd of the faithful.


Sooooo,  You're admitting that the Roman Catholic church is wrong in this? )Say_what(


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Theology / Re: What Does The 7 Churches of Asia Represent
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 03, 2018, 07:31:46 AM »
Rose,
   Not every Bible, but the majority were because it was unwisely transliterated and not translated as it should have been. As for why the translators did this, we can assume they anglicized the word [aggelos] and downright distorted the Hebrew word [mal'ak] to angel in a misguided attempt to alleviate contention in translation.

 )Fighting(  It seems every time I pop into this forum I'm always arguing and fighting with you because I'm the only one with the guts to hold your feet to the fire. Now you claim the translators of the bible DISTORTED the Hebrew words? How terrible of them  ::)

As long as you keep saying these outrageous things about the one true church, the apostolic succession and the learned translators, I'll keep fighting you on it. Because you are so hyper critical of the church and its book.


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...put it this way, they thought they did. Which is why they called the seven messengers of the church of Asia the seven angels of the church of Asia.

If it was such a mistake, why has it not been corrected in any widely published bible or even the new updated bibles? Because it's not a error, not a mistake, not a distortion. The seven angels were appointed to watch over the churches of Asia.


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translators are not infallible.

But apparently you are, since you know so much more than the church who brought you the bible and the schooled translators.


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You see one little untranslated word can distort a whole line of thinking and have unintended consequences.

Or maybe angel means angel and your distortions are what may cause unintended consequences.
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Theology / Re: Pope Tells Gays 'God Made You Like That'
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 03, 2018, 01:21:46 AM »
Judy should love this, because yesterday Pope Francis told a gay man that 'God made you like this and loves you like this and I don't care. The Pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.'

Wait!  Aren't you the one saying God is sovereign over all things? You can't have it both ways. Unless you are a hypocrite?
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Theology / Re: What Does The 7 Churches of Asia Represent
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 03, 2018, 01:19:07 AM »

What do the seven churches in Revelation chapter two and three stand for?

"The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church."
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Theology / Re: The Banner of Roman Catholicism
« Last post by Doug Johnson on October 03, 2018, 01:14:18 AM »
We thank God for that.

Still going? God worked through Catholicism, which is the one true Church. So praise God and thank the Catholic Church for your bibles.

The Apostles Creed

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
      the holy catholic Church,
      the communion of saints,
      the forgiveness of sins,
      the resurrection of the body,
      and the life everlasting. Amen.
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Theology / Re: Does Election Preclude Evangelism?
« Last post by Joe Johnson on October 02, 2018, 03:06:49 PM »
Wow! Newbie Here. Just reading this thread and I would say that a lot of Calvinists would probably disagree. While I understand your position that Calvinists are not evangelistic to some degree (they would dispute that, but I don't), the position that they worship John Calvin might be a little to strong.

Have you actually read their books? It's all about Calvin and Christ is only a footnote. No, it's not too strong. Calvinists often insist that salvation is not about a decision, but a changed life, and certainly Christianity is about a changed life, but you cannot use one truth to overthrow another truth. The fact is that a decision is involved in salvation, and as much as Calvinists disparage such a thing as being “Decisional Regeneration,” the reality is that salvation is connected to calling upon the name of the Lord:

Romans 10:8-13: “But what does it say? ‘The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart’--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For the Scripture says, ‘Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.’ For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for ‘Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.’”
Calvinist, Jeff Noblit, states: “The work of praying a ‘sinner’s prayer’ is not salvation. It can become a silly superstition and nothing more than a sacrament in Baptist clothes.” (A Southern Baptist Dialogue: Calvinism, p.98, emphasis mine)

Calling something a “silly superstition” is certainly mocking something, and the something happens to be a Gospel invitation. Calvinists are filled with resentment against the non-Calvinist presentation of the Gospel, which Calvinists deem as a “man-centered Gospel,” even decrying it as a “wicked” Gospel. When you get to this point, you realize that the Arminian charge against Calvinism leans more towards Reality, than towards Myth. Clearly, there is something significant involved here.

Calvinist, J.I. Packer, explains: “…the new gospel has in effect reformulated the biblical message.…we depict the Father and the Son, not as sovereignly active in drawing sinners to themselves, but as waiting in quiet impotence ‘at the door of our hearts’ for us to let them in.” (Introductory Essay to John Owen’s Death of Death in the Death of Christ, emphasis mine)

This is more mockery. This is the fruit of Calvinism, and how it affects the Gospel and evangelism.

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Theology / Re: Is birth control EVER acceptable?
« Last post by Melanie on October 02, 2018, 07:59:49 AM »
Glad you asked. 8)
That's Geez language, roughly translate into:

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what is the Geez language? Is this a country or people?
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