The Mountain Retreat

Believe it or not, Verizon has already started throttling Netflix streaming So if you have Verizon, and are wondering why your Netflix steaming movies are always reloading, buffering or lagging while other streaming services (like Vudu, Hulu, Amazon, etc.) on the same Verizon network do not, Netflix is being throttled because they won't pay the $20.00 extortion fee to Verizon.  It's bound to get worse as these money grubbing companies increase their throttling of streams going to non-business customers. And you have the Republican congress to thank for the anti net neutrality deregulation which makes it now legal to do so. People are so stupid to believe these companies. I'm switching from Verizon, but I'm sure all the companies will be doing the same thing before long.

All I can add is this. Even Trump's most ardent secular supporters will tell you that this man is a man of moral turpitude and depravity above all who went before him, and is changing the landscape of what integrity means. And yet the Christian evangelicals support him totally and unconditionally in record numbers. That's what the polls say. So I have but one question, what does that say about Christian evangelicals? Does it say that evangelicals are themselves immoral? Because last I looked, the Bible says Christians are to shun, abhor, renounce, detest,  loathe, despise, and denounce such unchristian behavior as Trump demonstrates on almost a daily basis. Not to ignore scripture when it says something they don't like, or when it suits their purpose. So are Evangelicals false prophets and fake Christians? Their blindness on almost every issue would seem to support that.

Philippians 4:8-9
"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you."

The evangelical says, these things are not as important as politics, or backing Israel unconditionally, ignoring fascism, preaching a earthly kingdom, supporting tribalism, preaching that guns in church are a good thing, turning a blind eye to injustice, preaching that Jews are God's chosen people even without Christ, preaching a doctrine of works vs sovereignty and grace, turning their back on the poor, naked and fatherless, crossing their fingers when there are lies, pretending to speak in tongues and all the other false teachings of evangelicals.

So are they any less blind than Israel was? Are evangelicals any less false prophets than the Scribes and Pharisees were? Think about it.

James white and Daniel Wallace have both debated him. Videos can be found on YouTube. I watched them a few years ago

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Is that not self serving?
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I don't think so, but how so? I have no vested interest in assigning meanings to Scripture that cannot be validated by the word of God itself. Just the opposite, my interest is only in validated doctrines based solely upon what is written in the Bible. It doesn't serve me in any way to say something that is not true. If you know of something I said that wasn't true, by all means bring it to my attention and I'll endeavor to correct it. Because my vested interest is in getting it right, not in justifying myself in something that might just sound right.

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It's both?
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Sure. I've already given you numerous examples of exactly that recorded in scripture, such as the Light, the Temple or even Israel. So since God has set a legal precedent concerning the body of believers illustrated in the person of the Lord, I don't think you have a leg to stand on in denying such symbolism can be both.

Ephesians 2:21-22

• "In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
• In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

So then, is the Holy Temple "BOTH" The Lord Jesus Christ and also His Holy messengers? ...You decide.

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You're just trying to defend Tim and Bruno because they are fellow Calvinists.
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I'm merely telling you the truth. Brother Tim and Bruno need no defending from me, as their doctrines are supported by a sound exegesis. What do you support yourdoctrines with? As for being a fellow Calvinist, I'm not a Calvinist so you're wrong on that count as well. I follow Christ, not Calvin. My doctrines are from Scripture, the unadulterated word of God, not Calvin's Christian institutes. So if you have a problem with my doctrine testified from the bible, please show chapter and verse where it is in error. Calvin will have to speak for himself, through his own writings.

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To borrow a phrase you always use, "You can't have it both ways"
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Having it both ways is saying the Covenant is with Israel, but the New Covenant with the church is not with Israel, even though the Lord said He would make a New Covenant with Israel and Christ confirmed it in the church. Having it both ways is saying Jews are Jews by nation, heritage or bloodline, when God's word says Jews are not Jews by that criteria.  That's trying to have it both ways. Having it both ways is not Christ declaring He is the Holy Temple and also declaring His people are the Holy Temple. That sir is divine unadulterated, righteous infallible truth of our blessed and personal communion with God. There's only one way to have it, and that's defining terms on God's terms. ...to have it God's way, which is singular.

"nosce te ipsum"
 

The four living creatures sung this song saying "they" were redeemed from every people.  Can the four gospels sing? Are the four Apostles redeemed from every nation? Was Christ Himself redeemed so He would be singing as these four living creatures? No. So then, I would say this supports these four living creatures representing neither God specifically nor the gospels, but those in Christ redeemed to God by the blood of the Lamb.

Beside from these very improbable reasons, what would make you think these creatures represent God's people? There is more evidence they represent angels or the four gospels than the church.