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 on: Yesterday at 11:01:58 AM 
Started by Dwight - Last post by Brian
Thank you all for your interesting comments, I am digesting all that I've read. I don't want you to think that I don't see where Timothy plainly declares woman are not to teach, nor to usurp authority over the men. I simply do not understand how Deborah did this over God's people Israel if this was a rule. However, I have been given some food for thought and will consider it.

I also post in other forums and blogs and the answers there are totally different. I'm wondering what you all think of these comments concerning why there are more women pastors.

http://how2fish.blogspot.com/2007/11/female-pastors.html



  My comment on it is that if you are looking for reasons why women can be Pastors, you will probably find them. I hope that you will be honest with yourself and recognize that 5the words of people cannot measure up against the word of God.  Blogs are for blogging and talk is cheap. but the word of God is our law book, and to it we surrender.

 Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
 5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
 6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
 7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
 8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
 9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
 10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
 11  For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

That is my advise and comment. I hope you take it in the way it was meant.

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 on: Yesterday at 10:56:51 AM 
Started by tornpage - Last post by Brian

Oh come come now, I've already shown how the Church has been given authority, and you and others have ignored it.



Doug,
  As has already been pointed out to you, the Church has been given authority only by the Spirit in preaching the word. God gave your Church no authority to interpret His word for everyone else, nor to claim your teachings were infallible. So no one has ignored what you've said, but it is all a boast that has no foundation.


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Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The first Pope given authority, and you say woe? You don't give authority to the pope, he has it.

 Where does it say that Peter was the first Pope? You have interpreted the bible to say that. It isn't that anyone has ignored your comments, it is that your comments don't fit the scriptures.


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Ac 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Does that say only Peter? Because I must have missed something.

 Acts 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:
 31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
 32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

I hope this helps you Doug, because authority comes from God to the Church, not from a Church to Popes.

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 on: September 01, 2010, 06:57:37 PM 
Started by Dwight - Last post by Stephanie
Thank you all for your interesting comments, I am digesting all that I've read. I don't want you to think that I don't see where Timothy plainly declares woman are not to teach, nor to usurp authority over the men. I simply do not understand how Deborah did this over God's people Israel if this was a rule. However, I have been given some food for thought and will consider it.

I also post in other forums and blogs and the answers there are totally different. I'm wondering what you all think of these comments concerning why there are more women pastors.

http://how2fish.blogspot.com/2007/11/female-pastors.html


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 on: September 01, 2010, 09:31:17 AM 
Started by George - Last post by Melanie
The often misrepresented term in Christiandom is "legalism," and is not what most Christians suppose. Some people just do not understand that grace does not negate law

http://www.gospelpedlar.com/articles/Christian%20Life/legalism.html


Halle,
  That's a good point. They way most Christians use the word Legalist today is in reference to anyone who quotes scripture in reference to sin, as if they should not do that. They don't know what legalism is.

 Matthew 5:32
  "But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

 I guess Christ was a legalist according to Christian definition today.



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 on: September 01, 2010, 09:26:02 AM 
Started by grace grace - Last post by Melanie

That's not an attack on sola scriptura, it's more a debunking of it.



Betty,
   You seem to be on the wrong side of everything. Sola Scriptura cannot be debunked or refuted, it can only be exposed as gospel. Unfortunately, that seems to be an offense to Roman catholics, and liberal Protestants like yourself.

http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/articles/what_is_reformed_theology.shtml

The Roman catholic Church is without the authority of God, and thus makes its own authorities of men. The doctrine of Sola Scriptura is not only Biblical, it is essential to Christianity.


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 on: August 31, 2010, 04:25:39 PM 
Started by George - Last post by Halle

The often misrepresented term in Christiandom is "legalism," and is not what most Christians suppose. Some people just do not understand that grace does not negate law



http://www.gospelpedlar.com/articles/Christian%20Life/legalism.html



 7 
 on: August 31, 2010, 08:20:46 AM 
Started by George - Last post by Melanie
Well I have to agree wirth Doug. Penne and Sue's passages don't apply.

You are so out of touch Shirley. That's why you will never be able to preach the gospel or work with prostitutes, gangs, drug users or normal teenagers, because you are so heavenly minded you are no earthly good.

What you have deemed inexcusable, shamefull and ignorant is just words.

 Colossians 3:8
  "But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth."

Betty,
  Filthy communication is "just words" but Christ condemns it as sin. So your whole premise falls. these good people are exhorting Christians to be more Christlike, not practicing legalism. 

http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/faq/what_is_legalism.shtml

The often misrepresented term in Christiandom is "legalism," and is not what most Christians suppose. Some people just do not understand that grace does not negate law

 8 
 on: August 31, 2010, 07:48:41 AM 
Started by stacia - Last post by Melanie
Thank you all for your very well thought out responses. I will refrain from drinking alcoholic beverages socially. No one has given me any valid reason why I can drink indiscriminately.

And that should be the point, shouldn't it? No one has given you one single reason (beside your own pleasure) why you should drink alcohol when you know it both offends your Christian brethren, and is a bad witness to the cause of Christ to non christians. The only reason to do so is selfishness and stubborness.

 Pr 31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
 5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
 6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
 7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

We are the kings (Revelation 5:10 ) who should not drink wine or strong drink lest we pervert the law.  Unlike the unsaaved who perish, we have Christ to make the heart merry and the Spirit to left the heavy heart.

 9 
 on: August 30, 2010, 06:22:55 PM 
Started by DJ - Last post by WoundedEgo
"The Lord's supper" refer, I presume, to the covenant meal of the new covenant between God and the house of Israel and the house of Judah.

Are you a Jew? If not, then you should not be concerned with this, since this is a Jewish covenant, not a gentile one.

Jeremiah 31:31  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews 8:8  For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

And coincidentally, all of the talk about being "freed from the law" that you hear in gentile Churches is likewise ignorant speech, since gentiles never WERE under the law of Moses!

 10 
 on: August 30, 2010, 02:44:04 PM 
Started by sandy - Last post by Melanie
I am sorry that I missed the thread already speaking on this subject. I will go and read it Embarrassed
RB

 Bump.

I was reading on this site that "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened," means the tribulation of the 1260 years was cut short through the influence of the Reformation. Any possibility that this has some truth to it?

 No! That is a Private Interpretation of the Calvinists.  Roll Eyes

  The Bible is its own interpreter. So it has to mean exactly what it says. no flesh would be saved if those days were not shortened. The Reformation doesn't qualify.


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