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Title: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Erik Diamond on September 23, 2017, 03:08:17 PM

2Ki 6:1-7
[1]  And the sons of the prophets said unto Elisha, Behold now, the place where we dwell with thee is too strait for us.
[2]  Let us go, we pray thee, unto Jordan, and take thence every man a beam, and let us make us a place there, where we may dwell. And he answered, Go ye.
[3]  And one said, Be content, I pray thee, and go with thy servants. And he answered, I will go.
[4]  So he went with them. And when they came to Jordan, they cut down wood.
[5]  But as one was felling a beam, the axe head fell into the water: and he cried, and said, Alas, master! for it was borrowed.
[6]  And the man of God said, Where fell it? And he shewed him the place. And he cut down a stick, and cast it in thither; and the iron did swim.
[7]  Therefore said he, Take it up to thee. And he put out his hand, and took it.

Does anyone know the point or spiritual signification of this story? Why did Elisha went to great lengths to return a borrowed item?
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Oneil on September 25, 2017, 09:53:45 PM
That's a tough one. Don't know.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Tony Warren on September 26, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
Does anyone know the point or spiritual signification of this story? Why did Elisha went to great lengths to return a borrowed item?

Erik, I am writing a FAQ on this subject, I'll be happy to send you the draft if you want it. It's not for publication, but you can have it for your personal use and understanding if you want.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Puritan Heart on September 26, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
Does anyone know the point or spiritual signification of this story? Why did Elisha went to great lengths to return a borrowed item?

Erik, I am writing a FAQ on this subject, I'll be happy to send you the draft if you want it. It's not for publication, but you can have it for your personal use and understanding if you want.

Hello Tony,

Please may I also request a copy ... if possible ..?

Thanking you in advance

Alexandra
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Reformed Baptist on September 26, 2017, 03:23:09 PM

Me Three!  :Question_:
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Erik Diamond on September 26, 2017, 03:36:19 PM
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Erik, I am writing a FAQ on this subject, I'll be happy to send you the draft if you want it. It's not for publication, but you can have it for your personal use and understanding if you want.[\quote]
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[/size]Good afternoon, Tony.  That would be fine. If I get it, I will review and let you my feedback. Blessings.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Melanie on September 26, 2017, 10:42:05 PM
I have often wondered about that, so I would like a look at that too, if possible.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Reformer on September 27, 2017, 02:24:06 AM
 )ditto(
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: James Heckman on September 27, 2017, 04:38:03 AM
I don't see any great mystery. The returning of the axe head simply shows that God cares about his prophets. It shows that when they are frustrated in their work, he will be their help and also take care of their economic problems. That's why he returned the prophet's axe head so that he could continue building.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Lieberman on September 27, 2017, 07:02:02 AM
 )idonotagree( Nothing's that simple with God's miracles James  :BibleRead:
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Rose on September 27, 2017, 11:10:16 AM

I don't think he should just give it to his select friends, he should release it to everyone to check out, or to no one.  :(
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Puritan Heart on September 27, 2017, 11:47:40 AM

I don't think he should just give it to his select friends, he should release it to everyone to check out, or to no one.  :(

Hello Rose,

Please take care to read the reply Tony gave to Erik again ... he offers to Erik a *draft.*  As you may or may not know, any draft is always subject to change prior to publishing but I believe he offered this to Erik since it was his enquiry and secondly, based on his advanced understanding of scripture, Erik would not overtly critisize any fault he might find in the incomplete document, rather, he would maturely bring any error / question to the attention of Tony for correction.  Unfortunately, there are those on this forum who lack basic courtesy and online etiquette ...c'est la vie ...

There can be little doubt that the full article will be available at a later date for publishing.  We might all be better off exercising a little patience, myself included  :)

Alexandra
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Reggie Matthews on September 27, 2017, 02:00:03 PM
 )Goodpoint(
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Tony Warren on September 27, 2017, 03:14:12 PM
Hello all,
   I have spent some time on it today and finished enough of it to release it publicly (I may edit some of it later). I'll go over it again and will post the link before the end of the day. Thanks for your patience.


"nosce te ipsum"
 
Peace,
Tony Warren
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Tony Warren on September 27, 2017, 03:53:51 PM

The Miracle of Elisha and the Floating Axe Head

http://www.mountain-retreat.org/faq/miracle-of-elisha-and-the-floating-axe-head.html

I concentrated on those 7 verses, all criticisms welcomed.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Erik Diamond on September 27, 2017, 07:58:11 PM
I will say that your study is a blessed read.  I am sure many of us here agree.  Your study did not only helped me to understand the "floating axe miracle", but to discern some another miracles better, too. 

God bless you, Brother Tony.  :peace: 
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Dan on September 28, 2017, 02:06:48 AM
I will say that your study is a blessed read.  I am sure many of us here agree.

As usual, you are wrong Erik. We don't agree because it's just another example of the spiritualizing that is the root of the amillennialist error. You can't just make every miracle a spiritual odyssey. Most of us prefer the traditional understanding, rather than the try and connect the dots method.

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Your study did not only helped me to understand the "floating axe miracle", but to discern some another miracles better, too. 

All it helped us understand is how to avoid private interpretations through spiritualizing. Once you go down that allegory road, it's very difficult to get back to basics. Take my advice and stick with the literal and historical grammatical approach.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Oneil on September 28, 2017, 04:28:19 AM

Interesting Tony, thanks for rushing it through.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Rick Reeves on September 28, 2017, 05:22:00 AM
I've never heard that interpretation before. )typing(
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Oneil on September 28, 2017, 09:11:56 AM
All it helped us understand is how to avoid private interpretations through spiritualizing. Once you go down that allegory road, it's very difficult to get back to basics. Take my advice and stick with the literal and historical grammatical approach.

Dan, you continually miss the point because you (and Dispensational or Political Christians like you) are forever trying to fit a political nation, or a physical destruction, or a historical temple, or a literal interpretation into God's spiritual truths. The same with the Dominion Theologists. You will always miss the true intent of miracles because you are so fixated on a literal floating axe head rather than receiving what God is showing us about himself in that miracle. You see, it's all about him, not about the supernatural, elisha or a axe head.

Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: David Knoles on September 28, 2017, 12:05:24 PM

Tony,
 Why is this always the thing you cannot seem to understand with all your allegories. Sometimes miracles are just miracles that cannot be explained and are simply to show the power God gives to men. Thats the beauty of it. Miracles don't need to be convoluted with more than they say, just taken on face value by faith that this was done to show Elisha was God's prophet.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Puritan Heart on September 28, 2017, 01:10:58 PM
Hello Dan and David,

Since you both generously and continuously offer your belligerent and hollow comments, please may I request that you offer to those of us on this forum, eager to learn the Truths of the Living Word of our Holy Heavenly Father, the wisdom of your own theological exegesis on this question, and, if at all possible, with more than one scripture. 

Also, please do know this; that all you offer on these pages, are open before the eyes of Almighty God, to whom we all must give an account on that Final day, thus we would expect nothing less than earnest convictions on your part !!

Thanking you in advance for your sincere considerations,

Alexandra

Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2017, 03:54:53 AM
Hello Dan and David,

Since you both generously and continuously offer your belligerent and hollow comments, please may I request that you offer to those of us on this forum, eager to learn the Truths of the Living Word of our Holy Heavenly Father, the wisdom of your own theological exegesis on this question, and, if at all possible, with more than one scripture. 

Alexandra,
There's nothing belligerent or hollow about what we think about this miracle. We think literal is better, and we think miracles show that power. We think Israel is Israel. And we think miracles demonstrate someone is a people and prophet of God. We think miracles show God's power, that's all. It's not complicated.

 I think that David did offer his own theological exegesis on the question when he said that "Sometimes miracles are just miracles that cannot be explained and are simply to show the power God gives to men. Thats the beauty of it. Miracles don't need to be convoluted with more than they say, just taken on face value by faith that this was done to show Elisha was God's prophet." Like it or not, that's his explanation of the miracle.

Acts 6:8
"And Stephen, full of grace and power, wrought wonders and great signs among the people." DT
Mark 9:39
"But Jesus said, Forbid him not; for there is no one who shall do a miracle in my name, and be able soon [after] to speak ill of me;" DT

Miracles are done to show God's great power. As far as answers, we're still waiting for you to answer a question. For your information, a request for additional scripture is not an answer. It's just a stalling tactic.

Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Nina on September 29, 2017, 05:09:54 AM
As usual, you are wrong Erik. We don't agree because it's just another example of the spiritualizing that is the root of the amillennialist error. You can't just make every miracle a spiritual odyssey. Most of us prefer the traditional understanding, rather than the try and connect the dots method.


 )S_Confused(
Tony Warren,
   Sometimes I ask myself, why does he even bother answering these people? They will never get it, and they are just so annoying in their adamant and ungodly denials. Sigh :-\

I want to thank you for taking the time to place these FAQs, sermons and articles online for God's people. I truly enjoyed this study of the question about the axe and Elisha.
 )God-Bless-You(

PS, Thank you Erik for introducing it.
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Trevor on September 29, 2017, 06:26:11 AM
The Borrowed Axe
    by John Newton
(https://www.poeticous.com/assets/poets/24542/large/john-newton.jpg)
   

“The prophets sons, in time of old,
Though to appearance poor;
Were rich without possessing gold,
And honoured, though obscure.

In peace their daily bread they eat,
By honest labor earned;
While daily at Elisha’s feet,
They grace and wisdom learned.

The prophet’s presence cheered their toil,
They watched the words he spoke;
Whether they turned the furrowed soil,
Or felled the spreading oak.

Once as they listened to his theme,
Their conference was stopped;
For one beneath the yielding stream,
A borrowed axe had dropped.

Alas! it was not mine, he said,
How shall I make it good?
Elisha heard, and when he prayed,
The iron swam like wood.

If God, in such a small affair,
A miracle performs;
It shows his condescending care
Of poor unworthy worms.

Though kings and nations in his view
Are but as motes and dust;
His eye and ear are fixed on you,
Who in his mercy trust.

Not one concern of ours is small,
If we belong to him;
To teach us this, the Lord of all,
Once made the iron swim.”
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Jon Thomas on September 29, 2017, 08:11:10 AM
)S_Confused(
Tony Warren,
   Sometimes I ask myself, why does he even bother answering these people? They will never get it, and they are just so annoying in their adamant and ungodly denials. Sigh :-\

Because He's a Christian in the true sense of the word.

Lue 6:27
"But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,"


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PS, Thank you Erik for introducing it.

 )ditto(
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Puritan Heart on September 29, 2017, 08:39:31 AM
For your information, a request for additional scripture is not an answer. It's just a stalling tactic.

Hello Dan,

With reference to your above mentioned comment, I can assure you there is no stalling tactic !  Since research and study is a part of my life I simply prefer to seriously consider what I post, before posting, especially if I am to post my personal findings. 

I furthermore wish to add that after reading the article presented by Tony, searching the scriptures, I, along with others, conclude that it answers the questions asked by Erik over and beyond what I had expected, and, as some of us know when studying the Word of God, Old Testament scripture points to Christ.  It is for the diligent student of the Word of God to seek or, as this forum allows, to ask for guidance.

Alexandra

Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Puritan Heart on September 29, 2017, 09:02:54 AM

I want to thank you for taking the time to place these FAQs, sermons and articles online for God's people. I truly enjoyed this study of the question about the axe and Elisha.
 :God:Bl-U:

PS, Thank you Erik for introducing it.

Hello Nina,

I came to faith through this very site only a few years ago and from then until this very moment, with the exception of one excellent visit with a christian friend, who unfortunately lives quite a distance away, have never had any real christian fellowship.  Trust me, this has not been for a lack of effort on my part.  Without exception, the few times I found myself in a gathering, church or fellowship, the teachings were ecumenical and horribly diluted.  Not one iota of sound biblical doctrine ! Speaking of *Holiness* was considered a joke and Old Testament teachings ...In general, these so called church meetings were nothing more than self glorifying social occasions utterly devoid of any True teachings.  I was devastated ... until I started my studies in Revelations, also through MR.  Only then did I begin to understand Christian life so much better.

Like you and I am confident I can say this on behalf of many others on this forum, I am eternally grateful to God for this man, Tony, for the time he spends in so generously responding to our questions, being a True Shepherd and Christlike spiritual father.  Many thanks must also go to his family and to those who help with the administration of this site.

A sister in Christ

Alexandra
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Tony Warren on September 30, 2017, 07:43:25 AM
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 )S_Confused(
Tony Warren,
   Sometimes I ask myself, why does he even bother answering these people? They will never get it, and they are just so annoying in their adamant and ungodly denials. Sigh :-\
<<<

Christians are obliged not to answer contempt with contempt, or have disdain for those who show disdain. We all have feet of clay, but that's the ideal.

Luke 6:32

[agape] or charitable love is the design of our blessed Savior for us. We are to have a merciful, charitable, forgiving, lending nature when dealing with those less fortunate. I believe that the old adage applies, "...There but by the grace of God go I." That's my belief and philosophy.

Moreover, as I have said before, I don't answer in any vain belief that my posts are so brilliant that they will one day convince them of truth, but rather for the benefit of travelers here who will read these posts, having similar questions, and "by grace of God" might be more open to receive Scripture references and recognize the difference between personal opinion and the authority of the "unadulterated" word.

Which is also why I leave these posts up year after year, as I recognize the documented thousands of people who read them might be edified. It's not about convincing the people who I bother to answer their posts, but about stewardship and being a witness to the truth. God is the Spirit that convinces people of truth, certainly not I. But God works through witnesses. How can prospective Christians call on him whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? That's what God's word says, and I have faith that this is all true. It costs me what? ...nothing. It cost Christ everything. So don't praise me for witnessing, praise God for any that comes forth of it.

"nosce te ipsum"
 
Peace,
Tony Warren
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Tony Warren on September 30, 2017, 08:03:09 AM
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There's nothing belligerent or hollow about what we think about this miracle. We think literal is better
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In these miracles, literal is a given. I didn't hear anyone deny these were literal miracles. The miracles "were" literal miracles--that were done to "signify" (be a indicator or sign of) something else.

John 11:23-25

i.e., the miracle of Christ raising Lazarus (name meaning "God is my help") from the dead "signified," or was a sign that Christ was God our help, and is the true resurrection that would bring us from spiritual death to life. Literal has nothing to do with what "the miracle" signified or pointed to.


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we think miracles show that power.
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Of course they do, and that's not in dispute. But not power for the sake of power.

John 3:2

The question is not one of if the miracles demonstrate the power of God (obviously they do), the question is, are they signs to "signify" (be a indicator or token) of some deeper spiritual truth. In other words, was restoring sight "just a miracle to show power" as you imply, or was it also to illustrate that it is by the power of Christ we would have our spiritual sight restored? That is the relevant question.  Was raising Lazarus "just a miracle to show power," or was it also to illustrate that Christ is the resurrection whereby we might be raised Spiritually from death to life. That is the only question here.


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We think Israel is Israel.
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So do we. But according to the authority of the word of God rather than tradition or men. Obviously, for anyone who reads Scripture with humility, honesty and an eye towards keeping it, the New Covenant with the church, is the New Covenant with Israel.

Hebrews 8:10-13

This is New Covenant Israel established on better promises, where by the power of the Spirit of God, His laws can be kept by the Spirit who puts them into our minds, and where they are written in our hearts that He is truly our God, and we His people. The New Covenant/Testament church, the new representation of the Kingdom of heaven on earth. For Israel is only Israel in Christ Jesus. As it is written, they are not all Israel that are Israel.


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 It's not complicated.
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When bondage to sin is involved, it is very much complicated. The reason is because there is always the great deceiver, our adversary the devil, and as a roaring lion walks about seeking whom he may devour. The same reason Israel couldn't (and to a large degree can't now) recognize Christ as the Messiah, despite the fact that we might think it's not that complicated or difficult to see in Scripture. It's not complicated to God's elect only because by the great and powerful miracle of Salvation, God has taken away the blindness and given them eyes to see. We can hear and receive God's glorious word only because of the miracle of our receiving Spiritual ears that give us the ability to hear the truth, and giving us spiritual eyes to see the light.

John 10:24-25

Obviously, it's complicated to those who have been told and still do not understand.

"nosce te ipsum"
 
Peace,
Tony Warren
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"

Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Tony Warren on September 30, 2017, 08:36:07 AM
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Tony,
 Why is this always the thing you cannot seem to understand with all your allegories.
<<<

Oh I understand your consternation entirely. Over the years you've made no secret of your aversion to God's analogies, parables and spiritual symbolism. But I didn't import allegories in Scripture to represent the Covenant, nor invent parables to confirm them, the good Lord authored them and inspired them to be written in the Bible. e.g.:

Galatians 4:22-24

I'm sure you are aware that the Priests, lawyers, Scribe and Pharisees had an aversion to these allegories also, and to this day their people won't accept them as God authored allegories concerning the Covenant with Israel.  Does that mean they are not, simply because a group of people deny them? The answer for any faithful Christian is, obviously not! I've said it 20 times, "Denial is the most predictable of all responses."


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Sometimes miracles are just miracles...
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Miracles are "never" just miracles, they all (every Single One) are a token of something far greater than a river turning to blood, a rock hit and then pouring out water, a sea dried up, a blind man made to see, pots of water turning to wine, or a lost axe head in Jordan being made to float. Miracles are "never" just miracles.

Matthew 12:28-29

Christ didn't just do a miracle of casting out a devil so this man alone could be free of his bondage, He did this miracle to demonstrate through it that it was by His power that Satan (the strong man) was bound so that his prisoners (which were us) could be set free, and the millennial Kingdom and reign might commence. Yes, all "that" was ividly illustrated in the miracle of casting out Satan from this man. Miracles are never just miracles, they always come with a allegorical message for our learning, as they are signs (significations) of some deeper spiritual truth.

Matthew 12:39-40

So then, was the miracle of Jonas being swallowed by a fish and him being three days and three nights in its belly "just a miracle?" Or in truth, was it a indicator, a sign, a token, a portrait, a figure of something infinitely more important that was to come? To answer that, "it's just a miracle with no deeper meaning" is just foolishness. Why do you think that of all the miracles Christ did in Israel, they (for the most part) were not convicted or convinced by them? No doubt because they were rebellious and had the same attitude that, ...they're just miracles.


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... that cannot be explained
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All miracles can be explained, that's why they were written in Scripture and why they are miracles (signs) or tokens of some deeper Spiritual truth. God wants His people to know and understand, while by these same miracles others wise in their own conceits are confounded. To them it's "no sign given" of deeper truths. While you may think our understanding of miracles is foolishness, you may not be aware that it's foolishness to you for a reason. The wisdom of the flesh is not the wisdom of the Spirit, and vice-versa.
 
1st Corinthians 1:25-27

Not only does God's miracles illustrate it, but God's plan of salvation itself is deemed foolishness to many. But again, neither is either actually foolish or unexplainable. But one must have been given Spiritual ears to hear.

Revelatione 3:6

But we all have ears; ...or do we?


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and are simply to show the power God gives to men. Thats the beauty of it.
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That is the beauty of it. Because the power God gives to men is the power to overcome death through the work of Christ, exactly what all these miracles symbolized. Indeed, that "is" the beauty of it.

Romans 1:16

The truth is, the power of God unto salvation to men is by the miraculous work of Christ revealed in each and every one of these miracles that were performed throughout scripture.


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Miracles don't need to be convoluted with more than they say,
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More than they say? The question is, what do they say? Does the miracle of healing the blind say God's servants will be able to heal blind people so that they may physically see again, or does it say that this is a portrait of the work of Christ, who makes those saved by His work on the tree able to "see" the truths that previously they were blinded to? Does the miracle of Elisha raising a man from the dead say God's prophets will be able to do that today, or does it say that it is an illustration of the resurrection from the dead that Christ died on the tree to obtain for men? That's not convoluting a miracle, and it's neither overly intricate, complicated or particularly difficult to understand. But it must be heard with Spiritual ears and seen with Spiritual eyes and felt in a new heart. Otherwise, as you say, ...it's just miracles.

Mar 16:17-18

Why do you think there are Catholics, Pentecostals and Charismatics believing in exorcisms and in putting on a show compelling the devil to leave someone? Why do you think there are churches taking up snakes and laying hands on poor souls that are sick deluded into thinking they have such miraculous powers? It's because they think carnally, of the flesh, that miracles were done to show we will also have such supernatural powers. Not so, they were done as tokens or figures of the spiritual truth they "represented."


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just taken on face value by faith that this was done to show Elisha was God's prophet.
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They "already" knew Elisha was God's prophets, why do you think that they flocked to him to learn under him before this miracle? Why do you think they revered him and asked him to accompany them to Jordan? No, this floating axe head miracle was not done to show these pupils that Elisha was God's prophet. It was done to show "all of us" the glorious nature of God's magnificent salvation program, and how through death on the tree of the cross, we all have been redeemed from judgment because of the debt that was "otherwise" unrecoverable.

"nosce te ipsum"
 
Peace,
Tony Warren
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Mark on March 17, 2018, 07:12:07 PM

Of a truth our debt was paid in full from our Lord Jesus Christ.  This article on the miracle of the floating axe head was enlightening and as a lurker here that doesn’t post much I would like to praise God for this website and forum in these dark days as the man of sin is seated in the church.

Mark
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: Jon Thomas on March 17, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
 )amen( Mark. Glorious isn't it?  And Thank you Erik for not being just a lurker like the rest of us and actually asking questions so we can be edified by the answers.
 &TY
Title: Re: The Floating Axe Head - 2nd Kings 6:1-7
Post by: bloodstone on March 18, 2018, 03:03:51 AM
This was only September of last year and I had already forgotten about it. Getting old I guess. Awesome answers and posts Tony. How anyone can find fault with it is hard to believe.