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Title: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: NoMass on June 03, 2017, 11:41:56 PM
Is it possible that Donald Trump is the Antichrist? He is the personification of chaos. Even Republicans are said to be tired of the Trump 'chaos' on Capitol Hill. Satan is the father of lies and it would follow that his ruler would be the chief of liars, and Trump fits that also. And since the Antichrist is said to cause chaos and division, and is said to be able to deceive the nations, is it possible that we are witnessing the prophesy of the world ruler known as Antichrist?
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Fred on June 04, 2017, 12:48:09 AM

Are you serious?   ::)
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Oneil on June 04, 2017, 01:27:00 PM
No, Trump could not be the antichrist. He could be, and probably is a antichrist (as there are many antichrists, and most politicians are),  but he certainly is not thee antichrist as Premillennarians understand the term. There is no such thing as a single man who is the antichrist, that's the myth of  the Premillennarians and the stuff of legends.

1 John 2:18
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time".

These are those with the spirit of antichrist. Yes, they're the rich, children of the liar, fornicators, proud,  hypocritical and self serving. Does Trump have that spirit to make him a antichrist? I'd say yes.  But is Trump thee antichrist? No. He's just an incredibly foolish, selfish vain, troubled and most likely mentally handicapped man.  Pray for him as our President. But do not be like him.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: aquatic on June 04, 2017, 06:03:52 PM
No.



http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/eschatology/antichr.html
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Erik Diamond on June 04, 2017, 10:11:36 PM
It is really sad that many people are wasting their time looking for "thee" antichrist based on what they hear in the world news or listening to YouTube "prophets" who pretend to know the date based on their researching with astronomy, Jewish feast, or tweets from a president.  Satan is a SPIRIT and is working within men, women, and children. Therefore, these people are coming WITH spirit of antichrist, not knowing that they actually representing Satan in their church. How? By selling their false doctrines that pollutes God's congregation all over the world.  Listen, in God's eyes, the antichrist is ANYONE, great or small, especially professed Christians, who has the spirit of Satan dwelling within them that they become adversaries to God's Word.

Let me give you few examples based on what I have observed:

There are many compassionate and nice people who loves to go to church where they are not looking for religion or don't want to be told what to do. They do not want to hear a message of "behavior modification".  They want to hear something fun, comfortable, trendy, undemanding brand of Christianity. They want the vague feeling of "spirituality" but none of the challenges and sacrifices that go with it. This is something the false prophets and christs will offer to those people of the congregation and they loved it.  Once deceived, they will feel offended by our truthful testimony. They will view us as judgmental or insensitive if we are trying to correct their views on subjects like homosexuality, divorce and remarriage, women in position, speaking in tongues, prosperity gospel, etc.

I believe that majority of them are being indoctrinated with premillennial/pre-tribulation lies that are fed by false prophets and christs, telling them to look out for ONE MAN called "thee" antichrist out there in Europe or wherever, yet they do not realize that they are indeed antichrists in God's house! They believe that Christ is coming but they are looking for wrong signs.  They believe that when "thee" antichrist "shows up" about to sign a 7 years treaty with modern nation Israel, they will be caught up in a rapture to avoid 7 years of 7 years of bloody persecution called the great tribulation.  Sorry, that is a lie!

Now why does God see these people as antichrist? Why do they still go to apostate church where false prophets and christs "rules?  Where did they get power from?

Rev 17:12-18
[12]  And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
[13]  These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
[14]  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
[15]  And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
[16]  And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
[17]  For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
[18]  And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

The woman represents God's congregations all over the Earth where Two Witnesses once ruled. The horn in Scripture signifies "power." The number ten in Scripture signifies "fullness."  Therefore, I believe it will be fullness of time these kings (false prophets and christs) to rule as kings with power received from the beast for a short time.  Satan is giving his deceiving power unto his false prophets and christs with lying signs and wonders that can deceive many. 

The false prophets and christs, along with people whom they deceived, will hate the whore which means they HATE Christianity but still want to be "spiritual".  They hate true doctrines, teachings, constraints, discipline, obedience, observance, challenges, commandments, suffering or sacrifice. In other words, they hate all those things that woman once represented! They do not want to have personal relationship with Jesus. They want to have a relationship with "adjustable" Jesus. They want to throw out the difficult, challenging aspect of belief, controversial subjects like homosexuality and gay marriage, abortion, divorce and remarriage, and replace all of it with something comfortable, stylish, hip, customized and convenient.  They want to calibrate their church to a more relaxing, less judgmental, entertainments with luxurious setting. This is trendy, comfortable churches they want. This is HOW the church as fallen into apostasy and desolation. God allows this to happen because they have rejected the truth so He will cause them to believe all the lies coming out of mouths (words/doctrines) of Dragon, beast and false prophets. 


Rev 16:13-14
[13]  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
[14]  For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

The false prophets and christs will show up in God's houses all over the world to turn it into a whoredom.  Their doctrines will mimic the Gospel that could almost deceive the Elect if that is possible. This is Babylon falling that God has warned us about.  You will know when you "see" abomination of desolation standing in God's house where it should not belong.  And if you do see, come out of her so you won't be deceived like the rest.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Nikki on June 05, 2017, 05:55:22 PM
 )Goodpoint(
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: John on June 05, 2017, 10:55:17 PM
Not taking the idea of Trump as anti-Christ seriously, just more Trump-bashing. But if I were to look for the kind of persons/party that best fits the description and qualities that oppose God/Christ, I'd look for a group that:

1. Wants God removed from their platform and society in general
2. Engages in unapologetic habitual lying, distortion, and gross misinformation
3. Champions the slaughter of unborn babies
4. Encourages lawlessness, foments hatred, encourages riots and discord
5. Divides people by race, gender, income, sex to engender hatred for political control
6. Not ashamed to take slaughtered baby organs/parts they killed and sell them
7. Advocates stealing the life-blood-energy of one group and giving it to unproductive non-workers
8. Uses vulgar language, crude talk, and lacks common civility and respect for others
9. Wants increased restriction on freedom of thought, belief, and religious expression for God-centered people
10. Glorifies adultery, homosexuality, fornication and every type of perversion imaginable under the sun
11. Lawbreakers that ignores/subverts federal, state, and local laws, including Constitutional laws
12. Exhibits unquenchable hatred for anyone and everyone that does not believe or think like them
13. Considers the Bible a "hate book" and wants it banned and Christians fired from their jobs
14. Is offended by Christianity and illegally uses government agencies to silence Conservative groups
15. Creates government welfare to destroy families and make people helplessly dependent forever
16. Excuses crime: releases criminals on to the streets, and weeps for the murderer not the murdered
17. Promises free money: creates environment of despair, drunkenness, epidemic drug use, suicide, child abuse, disease
18. Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side
19. Tears down fathers and men; pretends genders don't exist and sexual identity is fluid based on feelings
20. Promotes evolution and anti-God teachings while trying to silence Creation/Intelligent Design concepts
21. Will allow an after-school Satanist group to meet but not an after-school Bible study to be held
22. Will not provide for the security/safety of people: promotes no-borders, allowing criminals/terrorists easy access
23. Unable to govern. Won't build dams or power grids while water and electricity fail, all to protect snails and owls
24. Worships the creation rather than the Creator - bad environmental policies based on nonsense, harms/kills millions
25. Always genning fake fear: global cooling/warming/change, ozone hole, pipelines, overpopulation - to get power
26. Constituents are Socialist/Marxists, Anarchists, felons while haters of: America, the Rich, Whites/Asians, Men
27. Unreasoning. Cannot argue merit of their ideas but vilify, disparage, mock, or shout-down to silence others
28. Hypocrites. They love money/riches - while decrying and vilifying the rich for supposedly stealing from the poor
29. Excuse/lie about a foreign policy that produced bedlam, death, and disease for millions - while hating Israel
30. Allow an ambassador and special forces personnel to die needlessly - then lie and pretend not to remember
31. Enrich themselves out of greed using governmental positions in pay-to-play favors for cash donations
32. Trying to destroy an elected president through sabotage and deceit while feigning 'concern' for America
33. Zero morals; don't care about right/wrong or consequences: just get power and wealth at any cost
34. Applauds/adores evil and evildoers, hates whatever is wholesome, polite, kind, or any type of Christian character

I don't find it hard to discern ...

john
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Philly Dawg on June 06, 2017, 01:23:12 AM
Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side

More racist and race baiting rants by a obviously disturbed right wing fascist group that I won't even dignify with a response. Save that for the KKK meetings, they're the only ones dumb enough to actually believe that stupidity.


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...if I were to look for the kind of person that best fits the description

Well, that person sure sounds like Trump and his supporters to me. Wow, it's really close.

 Engages in unapologetic habitual lying, distortion, and gross misinformation
 Encourages lawlessness, foments hatred, encourages riots and discord
 Divides people by race, gender, income, sex to engender hatred for political control
 Uses vulgar language, crude talk, and lacks common civility and respect for others
 Wants increased restriction on freedom of thought, belief, and religious expression for God-centered people
 Glorifies adultery, fornication and every type of perversion imaginable under the sun
 Lawbreakers that ignores/subverts federal, state, and local laws, including Constitutional laws
 Exhibits unquenchable hatred for anyone and everyone that does not believe or think like them
 Unable to govern.
 Worships the mamon of unrighteousness rather than the Creator
 Distroys the environment and ignores health issues so the rich can get richer.
 Governs by engendering fear and hatred of other races
 In hypocrisy blames all their crimial activity, unconstitutional laws and failures on fake new
 Constituents are Racists, Fascists, Phgarisees
 Hates immigration en the country was built on it.
 Pretends the "white" man is the underprivilidged and downtrodden
 Believes the poor, hungry, widows and old are the problem
 Unreasoning. Cannot argue merit of ideas, vilifies, mocks, or shout-down to silence others
 Love money/riches, decrying and vilifying the poor for preventing the rich from gettng richer
 Excuse our enemies like Russia and vilifies all our friends like Britain, Germany and Europe
 The father of lies, with a foreign policy that produce riches for companies his family has interests in.
 Allows special forces personnel to die needlessly
 Enrich themselves out of greed using governmental positions in pay-to-play favors for cash
 Zero morals
 Doesn't care about right/wrong or consequences
 Just get power and wealth at any cost
 Applauds evil and evildoers of Russia & China & admires the leader of North Korea
 Calls opponents Fat, patronizes women, hates whatever is charity, pure, polite or kind

I don't find it hard to discern t all. It's Trump, and the whole world knows it. And if anyone advocates stealing the life-blood-energy of one group and giving it to unproductive non-workers like rich business owners, Oil companies and placing coal miners in jeopardy, it's Trump and his ilk.

  ...you know, maybe Trump is the Antichrist after all John. He's sure the father of lies, has deceived a lot of people and thinks of himself as God.  :thinker:
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Laura Tomlinson on June 06, 2017, 08:27:51 AM
Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side

Murdered by racist people on their side? John, why is everything race-baiting with you, Fred and Bram? I don't know how anyone can think the way you three do and call yourselves Christian. I can't believe you think this is how Christians should act. Are you even aware how many black cops are killed? You turn killing cops into a racist rant and political football to further your obvious disdain for minorities. For the last several years, I've sat here and read you call Federal agents just doing their jobs terrorists, championing racist authors of the past, defending Cliven Bundy's claims that blacks were better off in slavery, excusing the "unconsitutional" rants of Trump that he could ban Muslims from this country, and so on and so forth. You even called those Christians here who disagreed with your rants liberal, who are obviously not liberal. I'd like to know how people like you, Fred and Bram justify all this with claiming to be a Christ filled Christian? Do you ever look at yourself to see what others see? Aren't Christians supposed to be at peace rather than vindictive and anxious.

Philippians 4:5
"Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

I don't think You, Philly Dawg's or Bram's posts are in conjunction with whatsoever is true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report, of any virtue and praise to be thought on.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Trevor on June 06, 2017, 03:29:48 PM
Promotes killing of white cops and is silent when they are murdered by racist people on their side

Murdered by racist people on their side? John, why is everything race-baiting with you, Fred and Bram?


On whose side? People here who know Trump is unqualified to be President? Just who is promoting the killing of "white" cops? And just who is on the side of cop killers? Don't be vague, post names of those who want cops killed. Or is that just a lot of unjustified rhetoric? John, you're getting kind of looney here in the last few years. Liberals promoting the killing of white cops is all in your head John. There are no politicians, white or black, liberal or conservative, who are promoting the killing of "white" cops. You made that up or took it from a radical racist blog, and it's very disappointing. Bring the old John back, what have you done with him?
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Lieberman on June 06, 2017, 04:30:39 PM
Bring the old John back, what have you done with him?

Why do you assume the old John is the real John? Perhaps (and I think he'd concur) the posts that he's made here are from the real John. He believes that. What you read from him is what is in him. Nobody gave him those words, those are his words. I have learned over the years that nothing brings out the real person like Adversity, Politics, Anger or Alcohol. Do not assume. He may very well actually think politicians want white cops killed, I have heard stranger things from radicals from both the right and left side of the aisle who claim to be Christian. Go to the radical right websites, you will read that Trump is by far the greatest President we've ever had. And he hasn't done one thing yet. Go figure. That only proves people believe whatever they want, facts mean nothing anymore. If someone says all the Muslims are the problem in the U.S., it becomes a fact they are the problem in these people's minds. That's why they took all the Japanese U.S. Citizens in WWII and put them all in concentration camps for no other reason than that they were Japanese. It's right wing paranoia and brainwashing 101.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: bram on June 06, 2017, 04:39:34 PM
Thank you  John.

Some people's eyes will never be opened.
They missed manchester, they missed the london bridge.
They love muslims but and judge their fellow christians, even though they don't know who the muslims really are.
Even our villages get full with young moslim men.
 Two young girls 14 years old found murdered last week not to far from here'.
Our government gets  more muslim man in, we pay more taxes every year for welfare.

I know it Gods judgement, because our nation left the christian faith more and more. Its also Gods Judgement that we have such a government, that is political correct, and destroys our country. That government that promotes, abortion, homosexuality and all the pervers things that you can think off. We cannot have an government that acts more foolish than this liberal thieves.

It is very sad that even christians love this liberal lifestyle.

Bram

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Lieberman on June 06, 2017, 05:31:57 PM
Thank you  John.

Some people's eyes will never be opened.
They missed manchester, they missed the london bridge.
They love muslims but and judge their fellow christians, even though they don't know who the muslims really are.
Even our villages get full with young moslim men.
 Two young girls 14 years old found murdered last week not to far from here'.
Our government gets  more muslim man in, we pay more taxes every year for welfare.

Luke 17:1-2
"Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Your racism is an offense to Christ. You said it was all he Africans who were the problem over there, and now it's the Muslims. Who will it be tomorrow, the Russian Armenians, the Syrians, the liberal Jews, the Philippinos or the South Americans? Do everyone a favor and keep your problems and your racism in your own country. Since the election, our quota for bigots is full, as we have enough murder here by Whites, Asians and Blacks to deal with without adding racism to the mix.  It's not race that is your problem, it's your idiotic laws and your policies concerning lawbreakers.


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I know it Gods judgement, because our nation left the christian faith more and more.

Crime is now God's judgment? There has been crime since the dawn of time, the only difference is that now it's instantly reported all over the world. The criminals are not Muslims, Africans, Mexicans Italians and Jews, they're just criminals. What church do you go to, the church of "Heil Hitler." You want to keep the race pure and blame all the immigrants? Read your history book. The genocide of the Jews in Germany started because of Christians (supposedly) like yourself who listened to their leaders who blamed all the problems of the country and all the crime on the Jews. That's a fact. I'm Jewish, I know the history very well. These same simple minded attitudes held by simple minded people who were to dumb to actually figure out the real problem was racism and fascism. No, crime has no race and has no color. Your crime is the product of stupid laws and stupid people who don't obey laws, not race. And clearly, there is no shortage of stupid people both here and abroad.


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We cannot have an government that acts more foolish than this liberal thieves.

You sound like Trump, the biggest thief of all. Steal from the middle class and poor and give to the rich. That is soooo going to make things better, end crime, cause divisions to cease, lower the taxes for the middle class, and put the dark and yellow people back in their place.  NOT!


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It is very sad that even christians love this liberal lifestyle.
Bram

It is very sad that You, Fred and John are three peas in a confused pod. You can justify yourselves before simple minded men, but can you justify yourself before God.

Matthew 7:21-23
 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

If there is one thing I do know, I know Christ is not a racist, and neither are those who serve him.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Rich Aikers on June 06, 2017, 07:13:04 PM
We're not starting this again are we? The racists can't resist being racists and the trouble makers can't resist poking at them! They're both at fault.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Frank Mortimer on June 06, 2017, 09:08:09 PM
We're not starting this again are we? The racists can't resist being racists and the trouble makers can't resist poking at them! They're both at fault.
)Goodpoint(
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: bram on June 07, 2017, 01:22:34 AM
Lieberman,

your liberal talk makes no sense.
Islam is an ideology or so you will a religion, not a race!
But if telling the truth makes me a racist in your sight, so be it.

 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgat the LORD their God, and served Baalim and the groves.
8  Therefore the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel, and he sold them into the hand of Chushanrishathaim king of Mesopotamia: and the children of Israel served Chushanrishathaim eight years.

Oh yeah, God punishes, people through crime. read the old testament I would recommend.

Like all the liberals you left Manchester out, why?
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Reformer on June 07, 2017, 11:06:05 AM
The criminals are not Muslims, Africans, Mexicans Italians and Jews, they're just criminals.

 :amen: Men should be judged not by the color of their skin, or the nation that they come from, but by the content of their character. It's sad that Christians of all people haven't come to understand that.


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You want to keep the race pure and blame all the immigrants? Read your history book. The genocide of the Jews in Germany started because of Christians (supposedly) like yourself who listened to their leaders who blamed all the problems of the country and all the crime on the Jews. That's a fact. I'm Jewish, I know the history very well. These same simple minded attitudes held by simple minded people who were to dumb to actually figure out the real problem was racism and fascism.

You are 100 percent correct Lieberman, that is a fact. You don't have to convince educated people of that, and don't worry about the low hanging fruit as they will never be convinced of truth. I encourage you with the prayer of wisdom.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." Reinhold Niebuhr
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Reformer on June 07, 2017, 11:15:53 AM
Lieberman,
Like all the liberals you left Manchester out, why?

It seems when you guys run out of rhetoric, your final solution is to lump everyone of a race or nation into one bag of evil and call everyone who disagrees with you liberal, as if that proves you are correct. The only thing that proves is that you don't have an answer and so must resort to name calling to circle the wagons. We're not liberal  Bram, we're Christians, conscientious people with wisdom and common sense to know bigotry when we see it.

To quote someone here, "Your idea of truth is an illusion."
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Susan on June 07, 2017, 12:48:21 PM
Lieberman,

your liberal talk makes no sense.


Sounds like he was making perfect sense to me.

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But if telling the truth makes me a racist in your sight, so be it.

If it walks like a duck, and swims like a duck...


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Oh yeah, God punishes, people through crime. read the old testament I would recommend.

Well I guess the world has been under punishment by God since the day Cain killed Abel then. Because crime is a ongoing problem in the world, and always will be because the majority of the world is unsaved.


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Like all the liberals you left Manchester out, why?

Manchester? This is America, you've got the wrong continent.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Lieberman on June 08, 2017, 02:02:33 PM
Lieberman,

your liberal talk makes no sense.
Islam is an ideology or so you will a religion, not a race!

You're the one who brought up Africans. Trump's the one who brought up Mexicans. Fred's the one who brought up Japanese immigrants. John's the one who said just because a man says Blacks were better off in slavery doesn't make him racist. You're the one talking about the downtrodden white people. So now it's not about race? You must think we are stupid and can't read or that you can pull off the Jedi mind trick on us? It's been about race since you three started posting.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Philly Dawg on June 08, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
 )thinker( Well, you could send them a dictionary to explain what racism is, but that wouldn't help because they don't recognize verifiable facts as anything but fake news. This is part of a very disturbing trend I see developing in the world today. Just like those who worship Trump, and it's just like the terrorists, who don't recognize facts as anything but propaganda from the west. The same warped minds that can't accept the truth no matter how clear it is.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Fred on June 08, 2017, 03:05:19 PM
Not taking the idea of Trump as anti-Christ seriously, just more Trump-bashing. But if I were to look for the kind of persons/party that best fits the description and qualities that oppose God/Christ, I'd look for a group that:

 Wants God removed from their platform and society in general

 Enrich themselves out of greed using governmental positions in pay-to-play favors for cash donations
 Trying to destroy an elected president through sabotage and deceit while feigning 'concern' for America
 Zero morals; don't care about right/wrong or consequences: just get power and wealth at any cost
 Applauds/adores evil and evildoers, hates whatever is wholesome, polite, kind, or any type of Christian character

I don't find it hard to discern ...

john


Thanks John. The liberals, minorities and special interest groups that have taken over this forum and don't  understand the meaning of righteousness. They support abortions, they take God out of our institutions and schools, the support unfairly giving women the positions of men, they support the shooting of police, they're handing out welfare to mexicans and blacks to finance their crime sprees, and they want to remove Trump from office, despite the fact he was fairly elected by the people. There has also been an attack n the Premillennial church by the liberal media who do not support Israel. I'm glad that there are some of us who see these liberals for what they are. A foreign born obama has done far worse than anything Trump has done and he gets praise from the media. Gotta stand up against that.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Fred on June 08, 2017, 03:09:21 PM
You must think we are stupid


Um, no comment.


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It's been about race since you three started posting.

Some things are about race, everyone knows that.  Some things are about religion. And some things are about liberals who are so politically correct they can't see when minorities, muslims and jews are destroying their country by their liberal attitudes. Trump supporters are smart enough to see that.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: bram on June 08, 2017, 04:12:24 PM
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

liberals!
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Chicago Bear on June 08, 2017, 04:51:03 PM
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
 For men shall be lovers of their own selves,

Bram,
 Are you serious? Cause if you are serious, I'll take this seriously and go through the list. Let me think about that "seriously."
 
For men shall be lovers of their own selves?

Trump, the Narcissist!


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covetous,

Trump, the Envious!


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boasters,

Trump, the Braggadocious!

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proud,

Trump, the Pompous!


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blasphemers,

Trump, the swearer!


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disobedient to parents,

hmmmm. Got me on that one. Don't know.


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unthankful,

Trump, the Ungrateful!


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unholy,

Trump, the Profane!


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Without natural affection,

Trump, the Callous!


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trucebreakers,

Trump, the Promise Breaker!


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false accusers,

Trump, the Liar!


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incontinent,


Trump, the Uncontrollable!


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fierce,

Trump, the Furious!


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despisers of those that are good,

Trump, the Disdainer!


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Traitors,

Trump, the Back-stabber!


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heady,


Trump, the Rash!


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highminded,

Trump, the Conceited!


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lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Trump, the Self-serving!


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liberals!

Trump's a liberal?!?!?

Well Yeah, I guess you're right according to your definition, we're all liberals.

When I take the word of God seriously, I mean really seriously, Trump fits all the criteria of that verse except "MAYBE" disobedient to parents. So either you quoted the wrong verse, or you don't know the Bible or the meaning of words.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Rick Reeves on June 08, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
L O L  )smileyBounce(  )GoodPopst(
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Susan on June 09, 2017, 09:36:14 AM
I have a question. When did the word liberal become an insult? I think Bram, John and Fred would call Christ a liberal because he fed the poor instead of condemning them for being lazy. Or because he helped the widows and told his disciples to nurse the sick back to health. In their world the good Samaritan would become the evil liberal do-good-er and half-breed who should be despised. And I suppose, according to these three, Philip should have told the man from Ethiopia to go back to his own country and made a law that they couldn't come to Israel. The hypocrites of the days of Christ are the hypocrites of today. The philosophy of radicals is always in opposition to the laws of God, whether from the right or the left. Donald Trump is not the antichrist because he's not from the church. It's the people from the churches that are the antichrists. Because they pretend to be of Christ while in practice oppose nearly everything that he stood for. They are filled with hate and a over-inflated  sense of themselves.






Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Chris on June 09, 2017, 10:21:56 AM
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
 For men shall be lovers of their own selves,

Bram,
 Are you serious? Cause if you are serious, I'll take this seriously and go through the list. Let me think about that "seriously."
 
For men shall be lovers of their own selves?

Trump, the Narcissist!


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boasters,

Trump, the Braggadocious!

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proud,

Trump, the Pompous!


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unholy,

Trump, the Profane!


 &TY  )amen(  )Goodpoint(  )iagree(

That was honest, meaning it probably won't go over well with Bram. Amazing how that scripture "For men shall be lovers of their own selves" captured the essence of who Trump is. He's not the antichrist, that's silly. But he is not Christian, he is vulgar, incompetent, profane, crude, immoral and lacks integrity in the truest sense of that passage.

But what would you expect from a man who never had to do real work a day in his life. Unless you call golfing and giving orders work.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: bram on June 09, 2017, 03:04:25 PM
I am not so concerned about Donald Trump at all, I do not see him as a true Christian, but as president  I prefer him far over Hillary.
I am more concerned about you liberals on this forum, you who like to kill with your words if you could. You who like to accuse everybody who disagrees with you.
You who think Christianity is comparable with liberalism.
 In Holland we have a saying “zo de waard is vertrouwd hij zijn gasten”, that means something like “as the host is so does he trust his guests “.

Proverbs 14: 12, There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.

Those who think that state welfare is biblical, well I tell you it is not, it is not a task of the government to redistribute the wealth.  Liberals always accuse non liberals of being egoistic but  its not. First of all the liberals are one-sided never see the whole picture, and the bible is not on your side

2 thess 3: 10
 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11  For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12  Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
13  But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14  And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.

In this country we have to many busybodies, because liberals make them dependent on them.
Are they better off?  in no way they have no satisfaction of earning their own living, instead they become disgrateful
And if you have a difficult time, it may be good for you, real Christians have often difficult times and than they call upon their God, are dependent on Him and when God delivers them they are grateful

Ps 119: 71,  It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.

With that experience you are not liberal but more generous towards others .
Most liberals don’t think, they are just indoctrinated, and  act the same way as all worldly liberals.

What benefit is there in accusations as:
 What church do you go to, the church of "Heil Hitler."
They are filled with hate and a over-inflated  sense of themselves.
 "Your idea of truth is an illusion."


John 18, Pilate saith unto him, What is truth?

It is sad Reformer that you go along with the liberals.

But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. Gal 5.

Be a little reasonable if you can,  than we can debate maybe even Trump :)

 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another,  Gal 5.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Sojourner on June 09, 2017, 04:43:00 PM
I am not so concerned about Donald Trump at all, I do not see him as a true Christian, but as president  I prefer him far over Hillary.

You're not even from this country. You've got bigger problems in your own country because of your own actions over there, and you're worried about us? You should spend your energy fixing your own country, then you can lecture the United States about our wayward ways. Take the beam out of your own eye first.


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I am more concerned about you liberals on this forum

Can I say in all seriousness, there are very few liberals here. "VERY FEW!" So you can cry wolf until your nose grows like pinocchios for your distortions, but no one is taking you seriously when you make unsubstantiated charges like that. At least no one apart from John, Fred and George. The four people who don't know what a liberal is. The rest of the Christians here are a little less loose with the facts. You actually don't know what a liberal is, because you only use it as a weapon or hammer to beat someone down and shut them up. It won't work. Most people actually know what a liberal is, and it's sure not a Reformed Conservative Christian. Ask Betty, she'll tell you (she's liberal and proud of it).


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you who like to kill with your words if you could.

That sounds like Trump. Except he likes to kill with his insults, belligerence and tweets.


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You who think Christianity is comparable with liberalism.

Christianity has no comparison. But apparently you think anyone who agrees Trump is incompetent and unfit to be President, is by definition a liberal. All I can say is educate yourself. Please do that. I would love to see a Republican in office, just not Trump. He gives conservatism and more importantly Christianity, a bad name.


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In Holland we have a saying “zo de waard is vertrouwd hij zijn gasten”, that means something like “as the host is so does he trust his guests “.

Yes, and we have a saying here in the US, "Acostarse con perros te levantas con pulgas", that means something like "lay down with dogs you get up with fleas."

Which is why I don't lie down with Trump, nor his ignorant and racist supporters. Even when they don't know they are ignorant and racist.


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Liberals always accuse non liberals

Cut to the chase. What is a liberal?  Do you really know? Tell me if you can. If you can't, just SHUT UP, because you are wasting air wagging your tongue.


Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Diane Moody on June 09, 2017, 07:55:54 PM
Sojourner, I think they're just using that word to annoy you. Don't let it get to you. You're right, those type of tactics never work here. In fact they backfire.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: NoMass on October 04, 2017, 12:45:43 PM

Is Trump The Antichrist?

https://theoutline.com/post/939/donald-trump-antichrist-apocalypse

He does follow closely the characteristics.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: NoMass on October 04, 2017, 12:56:28 PM
I have a question. When did the word liberal become an insult? I think Bram, John and Fred would call Christ a liberal because he fed the poor instead of condemning them for being lazy. Or because he helped the widows and told his disciples to nurse the sick back to health. In their world the good Samaritan would become the evil liberal do-good-er and half-breed who should be despised. And I suppose, according to these three, Philip should have told the man from Ethiopia to go back to his own country and made a law that they couldn't come to Israel. The hypocrites of the days of Christ are the hypocrites of today.

How did I miss this.  )GoodPopst(  &TY  )iagree(
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Erik Diamond on October 04, 2017, 01:27:32 PM
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Is Trump The Antichrist?

No.

Satan is a spirit and is "THEE" antichrist, ruling through men, the body of the beast all over the world. For example, the two horned beast like a lamb in Revelation 13 is not talking about one single man, but the body making up of men with the spirit of antichrist that serve Satan's agenda against Christianity prior to Second Coming. They are the false prophets.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Frank Mortimer on October 04, 2017, 03:45:26 PM

Is Trump The Antichrist?

https://theoutline.com/post/939/donald-trump-antichrist-apocalypse

He does follow closely the characteristics.


A lot of people follow those characteristics. He might be a Devil, but he's not the antichrist because he's not part of the church. The antichrist by definition is part of the church, and there are many of them.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Philly Dawg on October 04, 2017, 06:26:36 PM
A lot of people follow those characteristics. He might be a Devil, but he's not the antichrist because he's not part of the church. The antichrist by definition is part of the church, and there are many of them.

Agreed Frank,
   It's just common sense. If he takes a seat in the holy temple, then he has to be a man of religion. Trump is not religious. Therefore, from scripture he doesn't qualify to be antichrist.

 2 Thessalonians chapter 2
 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Trump does not qualify. Nor does any other Politician.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Hammerle Labinowic on October 05, 2017, 02:52:27 AM
Trump does not qualify. Nor does any other Politician.

 :iagree:  Except the politicians in the church. Because to a large degree, the church has become politicized by its pastors, ministers and Elders. From the liberal church to the conservative church, they have blurred the line between the separation of politics and religion, world and church, good and evil.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Melanie on October 05, 2017, 08:59:23 AM
From the liberal church to the conservative church, they have blurred the line between the separation of politics and religion, world and church, good and evil.


)cLaPpInGg( Ain't That the Truth!    )Bible-Red(
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Studyman on October 05, 2017, 10:07:08 AM
I am a newby on this forum. A nobody, just typed letters on the internet. However I am now a member, so I'm giving my 2 cents, for what it's worth.

How can it be wise to use God's Word or teaching to promote a man made political ideology? How can someone, who claims to have been purchased by the Blood of Christ, use God's Word to place Jesus in a "political" box?

Jesus was a Conservative, Jesus was a Liberal? Really folks? Is that the message the Bible teaches? Is that why they killed Jesus because He was political?

Well, it may have been. The Mainstream Church of His time was soaked in tradition and man made doctrines. This "church" was "Teaching for doctrines the Commandments of men." The church leaders thought the Messiah was supposed to rid them of their enemies. They thought their enemy was the "Government". (Roman Empire) But it wasn't. Their enemy and ours is our own flesh. Our own mind.

There is a saying "No matter where you go, there you are". I contend that our enemy remains the same no matter which political party rules. No matter which king  rules, no matter which dictator rules. I contend that one message of the Bible is to "separate our selves" from all this foolishness.

Today is a Sabbath. It is one of the forgotten "Feast's of the Lord" called "Feast of Tabernacles". It is one of the observances in God's holy Days which show His Salvation plan. This plan starts with Passover, it doesn't end there. (A topic for another discussion) But it was amazing for me, on this Sabbath, to open this forum and see this thread. The whole purpose of this Holy Day, this part of Christ's Salvation plan, is to remind us that we are "Strangers in a foreign land". I had no say where I was born. And does it really matter? Are we all not to "carry our cross" (Flesh) and follow Him. (Walk even as he walked)

Heb. 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

We are waiting: "For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God."

Neither Liberals nor Conservatives will bring this city, though "many" religious leaders who "come in Christ's name" suggest they might.

Anyway, there is the 2 cents.









Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Terrell Meyer on October 05, 2017, 11:25:19 AM
I am a newby on this forum. A nobody, just typed letters on the internet. However I am now a member, so I'm giving my 2 cents, for what it's worth.

 )welcome(


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How can it be wise to use God's Word or teaching to promote a man made political ideology? How can someone, who claims to have been purchased by the Blood of Christ, use God's Word to place Jesus in a "political" box? Jesus was a Conservative, Jesus was a Liberal? Really folks?

Amazing, isn't it? And yet, that's what so many modern Christians (or professing Christians) believe. That God is pleased with their political efforts through Satanic men from both sides of the aisle. Completely ignoring the mission Christ actually gave us.


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Is that the message the Bible teaches? Is that why they killed Jesus because He was political?

The only time Christ was political is when he told his disciples to pay their taxes and obey their rulers. The exact opposite of the political Christians today. Not once did he speak of the evil Roman rulers, the unfair rulers or why they should hate the rulers because they were not Christian or did unchristian things. He spent most of his time talking about the need for salvation, the disobedience of the church rulers and the coming apostasy. Quite a great departure from what the ministers of today pine about. The evil liberals and the heartless conservatives. Not to mention the indecisive moderates!


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The Mainstream Church of His time was soaked in tradition and man made doctrines. This "church" was "Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." The church leaders thought the Messiah was supposed to rid them of their enemies. They thought their enemy was the "Government". (Roman Empire) But it wasn't. Their enemy and ours is our own flesh. Our own mind.

Just like the majority of the church today thinks their enemy is the government. It's like it's happening all over again in the church. They wanted Christ to overthrow the Roman government, and Christ came to set up a different type of new government resting upon his shoulders. It's like people never learn.


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There is a saying "No matter where you go, there you are".

Tony's been saying that for years, and Christians just don't seem to understand what that means.


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1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

We are waiting: "For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God."

Neither Liberals nor Conservatives will bring this city, though "many" religious leaders who "come in Christ's name" suggest they might.

Anyway, there is the 2 cents.

Yes, both religious leaders and non-religious leaders and those pretending to be religious leaders.

Matt 7:21-23
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Reformed Baptist on October 06, 2017, 10:52:30 AM
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The church leaders thought the Messiah was supposed to rid them of their enemies. They thought their enemy was the "Government". (Roman Empire) But it wasn't. Their enemy and ours is our own flesh. Our own mind.

Just like the majority of the church today thinks their enemy is the government. It's like it's happening all over again in the church. They wanted Christ to overthrow the Roman government, and Christ came to set up a different type of new government resting upon his shoulders. It's like people never learn.

 )-Oh-tHe-DrAma-( First the warmonger Bush, then the lascivious Clinton, then the evil Obama and now the Moron Trump. Why do Christians always think that they can change the world and its governments and make them righteous when that has never happened and never will?

Ecc. 1:9
"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun".

We need to work on changing hearts through the gospel, not political parties. Trump isn't the first politician to be called Antichrist by people who know nothing about Christianity, and I'm sure he won't be the last. While the real antichrist is a mystery and goes unnoticed in the church.

Rev. 17:7
"and the messenger said to me, `Wherefore didst thou wonder? I will tell thee the secret of the woman and of the beast that [is] carrying her, which hath the seven heads and the ten horns".
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Philly Dawg on November 30, 2017, 03:38:54 AM

Trump Knowingly retweets Fake News!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42166663

What Christian can respect this man?
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Henry on November 30, 2017, 05:04:12 AM
Trump and the right wing dispensational radicals who blindly support him are the biggest threat to the traditional peace of traditional Christianity the world has ever seen. Unfortunately, the world looks at these bigoted and dishonest people waving the flag of Christianity and equate their hypocritical behavior to all Christians. If antichrist is descriptive, the behavior of Trump sure fits the bill. It is about as anti-christ as it gets.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Laura Tomlinson on November 30, 2017, 10:01:27 AM
What has the reaction been? Mr Trump's decision to retweet the videos has been met with condemnation on social media. Brendan Cox, whose wife, British MP Jo Cox, was brutally murdered by a far right-wing extremist who shouted "Britain First" before committing the murderous crime, has loudly condemned the President's action.

Quote: "Trump has legitimised the far right in his own country, now he’s trying to do it in ours. Spreading hatred has consequences & the President should be ashamed of himself."
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Chicago Bear on November 30, 2017, 11:26:07 AM
White House defends anti-Muslim Trump tweets, says it doesn't matter if videos are real

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/trump-anti-muslim-tweets/index.html

Can you say "FAKE NEWS!" The worst President we've ever had!
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Chicago Bear on November 30, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
Dejavu from Trump of the girl's death in our country in Charlottesville by the far right. Apologies are pouring in and that's something to applaud at least. At least all America hasn't gone crazy worshipping Trump:

https://twitter.com/MrBrendanCox/ (https://twitter.com/MrBrendanCox/status/935842524383645696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-42166663)
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Erik Diamond on November 30, 2017, 12:49:12 PM
Trump may not be a good president, but I believe God set him up for a reason to serve His purpose. As a judgment upon our country as He has done with other nations ever since the fall of man.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: George on November 30, 2017, 01:22:02 PM
Trump may not be a good president, but I believe God set him up for a reason to serve His purpose. As a judgment upon our country as He has done with other nations ever since the fall of man.

He's set up because he's a light shinning in a world of minorities, evil liberals and false religions. The only judgment I see is against bleeding hearts who don't see the evil of Muslims, Criminals and other unamericans who have infiltrated this country and are trying to destroy us from within. If only liberals would see the good that a man like Trump does for the Christian right and the cause of Israel and truth, they would not be so quick to judge. Don't listen to the fake news about his losing popularity, Republican Christians, the real Americans, back him now more than ever. As for the rest of you, you don't matter in the long run.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Laura Tomlinson on December 01, 2017, 01:40:43 AM
White House defends anti-Muslim Trump tweets, says it doesn't matter if videos are real

Can you say "FAKE NEWS!" The worst President we've ever had!

I think by now we all can agree on that. Just a mean spirited man, and we all know what spirit is mean.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Joe Johnson on December 01, 2017, 02:09:32 AM
I agree with George, Trump was not elected as judgment by God, that's a liberal reaction to his popularity. He was elected because people were tired of being poor by being taxed out of existence while non whites were afforded every opportunity. He was elected because people had turned their back on Israel, God's chosen people. And he was elected because Obama destroyed the country in the little time he was in office. Trump has been put in office not as judgment, but to make America great again, to make America rich again, to get rid of Muslims for security reasons and to give big business the chance to profit so they can pass those prophets down to its workers. That's why Christians support him and his righteous agenda and that's why he'll succeed.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Manuel on March 05, 2018, 08:11:24 AM
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Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist

Well, he is the king of Chaos, el diablo, an adversary to true Christianity, he famously owns a building address 666, and he is the father of lies, so maybe there is some grain of truth to it.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Erik Diamond on March 05, 2018, 09:15:56 AM
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Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist

Well, he is the king of Chaos, el diablo, an adversary to true Christianity, he famously owns a building address 666, and he is the father of lies, so maybe there is some grain of truth to it.

No, Trump is just happen to be one of MANY people with spirit of antichrist. Not "thee" antichrist nor "thee" beast.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Reformer on March 06, 2018, 06:29:42 PM
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Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist

Well, he is the king of Chaos, el diablo, an adversary to true Christianity, he famously owns a building address 666, and he is the father of lies, so maybe there is some grain of truth to it.

It's coincidence! He's a Devil but not thee Devil. He may brandish and joy in his evil a lot more than "normal" Presidents, but that doesn't mean they weren't evil or unrighteous in what they did.

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Dwight on March 07, 2018, 07:26:53 PM
Well, he is the king of Chaos, el diablo, an adversary to true Christianity, he famously owns a building address 666, and he is the father of lies, so maybe there is some grain of truth to it.

It's coincidence! He's a Devil but not thee Devil. He may brandish and joy in his evil a lot more than "normal" Presidents, but that doesn't mean they weren't evil or unrighteous in what they did.

 )Goodpoint(  )GoodPopst(
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: George on March 23, 2018, 11:53:53 AM
He's not a devil at all, he's the man whom Americans voted as President and whom you liberals want to place your morality on in order to bring him down. Not going to happen. The real devils are you anti gun, anti capital punishment, pro abortion, anti white, pro illegal immigration, pro tax liberals who post on this forum.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Reformer on March 25, 2018, 09:19:39 AM
He's not a devil at all, he's the man whom Americans voted as President and whom you liberals want to place your morality on in order to bring him down.

He's a devil alright. If we brought up morality with Obama and his abortion stance and Clinton with Monica Lewinsky (which we did) and no one complained, why shouldn't we hold Trump to the same standards of morality? As Christians we should be against all immorality from anyone of either political party. Unfortunately most evangelicals choose to give one a party lifetime pass. God doesn't work like that. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. God has a even balance, Christians don't.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Johnny on August 24, 2019, 12:09:44 AM
A lot of people follow those characteristics. He might be a Devil, but he's not the antichrist because he's not part of the church.

I don't know about that, maybe we should reconsider. He sure says he's part of the church. He's stated that he is a Presbyterian Christian so that makes him part of the church. The unsaved church. I don't know but maybe you're wrong and he is the antichrist. He's been acting like him, hasn't he? He fits all the criteria, doesn't he? Yesterday he sure sounded like a false christ. He's the man of sin, isn't he? He calls himself the king of Israel, doesn't he? People worship him, don't they? He's got a great many people deceived, doesn't he? He's the father of lies, isn't he? He calls himself the chosen one, doesn't he? What part of that is not antichrist?

II Thessalonians 2:3-4
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Sounds like Trump to me. I mean seriously. How does that not sound like Trump? Give me one single characteristic that is not in him? I dare you! The evangelical church literally worships him regardless of anything that he does. So are they not deceived?

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Johnny on August 24, 2019, 12:17:53 AM
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Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist

Well, he is the king of Chaos, el diablo, an adversary to true Christianity, he famously owns a building address 666, and he is the father of lies, so maybe there is some grain of truth to it.


hmmmmmm  )thinker(  Too much coincidence. Kinda weird, isn't it?

Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: David Knoles on September 09, 2019, 04:21:05 PM
No, it's not. The President was chosen to help Israel and bring America away from liberalism. If anything, Obama was the antichrist. He is a secret muslim you know.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Rich Aikers on December 28, 2019, 01:44:42 AM

I John 2:18-20
 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things."

The antichrists are those of the church who reject the truth and might go out from us to follow Trump rather than Christ because  (Like Reformer said) they were never truly of us.
Title: Re: Could Donald Trump be the Antichrist
Post by: Philly Dawg on February 07, 2020, 07:05:15 AM

Trump, I don't agree with Forgiving Enemies