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Title: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Carol on August 18, 2003, 10:00:46 AM
I'm just wondering what you all think of television?  Do you have one in your homes?  If so, how often do you watch, or allow your children to watch.  Do you feel it is wrong to have and watch TV?  Why or why not?

Thanks.  
Carol

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Diane Moody on August 18, 2003, 10:14:45 AM
I'm just wondering what you all think of television?  Do you have one in your homes?  If so, how often do you watch, or allow your children to watch.  Do you feel it is wrong to have and watch TV?  Why or why not?

Thanks.  
Carol

I don't think that it is inherently wrong, but I do think that 99 percent of people use it wrongly. That is to say, watch programs that they should not, and vicariously live through these programs.

It is a evil temptation, and I feel that it probably would be best not to have a TV. At least for most people. Having said that, I do have a TV and fight a battle to watch only wholesome programs and shows. I also think that pecause Christians are so addicted to TV (though they'll never admit it), so use to it,  and love it so much, that it has become an integral part of their lives. It will take an act of God to get most of them to give it up, and I'm sure all of them/us have an excuse.

To be sure, there is very little wholesome on TV. Not even the so called family shows anymore.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Carol on August 18, 2003, 02:50:07 PM
Thanks for your reply Diane.  I agree that television is addicting and I think it wastes time and breeds laziness, along with the fact that it exposes the one watching to so many worldly influences.  

As a Christian, I wonder what business we have even watching it.  

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.  Phil 4:8

Carol
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Jen on August 18, 2003, 02:59:11 PM
Dear Carol,
The question you posed about TV is a good one and should be considered by all Christians. I do not think there is anything evil about a "television". The problem lies in how unsaved man utilizes it. I like the Television for up to date news, weather forecasts, and some children's programs. I am a documentary sort of person and do occasionally enjoy the History channel. I have known families who have chosen no TV at all. Then I have also known families who are glued to their TV's. Those of course being the extremes. With children I know there is a challenge to constantly screen what they watch. We have 5 boys and I know I have the responsibility to guard what they do or do not watch. My personal feelings about it are....if I was not married, I would probably not own a TV at all. I can get news via radio or the internet. I think most TV watching is just idle entertainment. I would prefer to spend my time reading my Bible, writing letters, or sewing. The commercials in and of themselves are pretty much horrible. I saw one that made my skin crawl, I will leave out the details so as not to spread the evil. I do not think TV is neccessity, nor do I think it is all together bad. It really can be a bit like our computers. The internat is surely full of filth that we would not want to spend our time participating in, yet a few fine ministries use it to glorify God and get the Gospel out to as many people as possible. Sorry if I sound wishy washy, just my 2 cents worth.
In Christ,
Jen
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: R.ellis on August 18, 2003, 10:50:59 PM
Sometime in the mid 90's I weaned off of television.  This is about the same time the Lord convicted me of watching it.  I was pretty well addicted to it, and much of my life was centered around watching it.  My wife or kids were allowed to speak to me only while a commercial was on.  Now I repent that I spent so many years of my life that were wasted by sitting in front of that object, and it hasn't been easy raising kids without one either.  I am certain they have been looked at rather oddly by thier friends when they have to confess they don't watch much tv, and sometimes I wonder if I have done the right thing, but I am convinced they'll appreciate the stand I took for my family someday.

By and large I feel it is has been, if not the, greatest invention for dispersing every form of evil upon mankind.  I would even go so far to say it has almost singlehandedly destroyed America's Morale Integrity, and will ultimately corrupt the world.  Had it come to this country 50 years ago in the way it is now I believe people would have revolted and stormed the stations.  As we all know, it had to come in as a relaxing, enjoyable, peaceable, even morally correct medium to ever get a foothold in our homes.

I think it falls into the category that the Lord Jesus spoke of as being the "lust of the eyes, or the lust of the flesh" when He is describing the evil that comes outof a man.  What I have found even after all these years when I am forced sometimes to be in a room and the tv is going, I am unable to turn away from it, another words it still has a "power" over my old man and I'm unable to break away from it's clutches.

Recently I was required to stay overnight in a Hotel and thinking I could watch something safe (grizzly bears on PBS) I changed the channel for just a moment and behold two women were topless and making out.  What a shock!!!  Has tv gone this far in only 8 years?  Years ago in my community they say people use to visit with each other, had community events, looked out for each other, unfortunately all you see now in the evening is the "little blue globe illuminating from their homes and people gathered together to worship this form of or possibly the image of the beast".  Strong words, yes I know, but I feel they are needed now more than ever before.

I have often wondered what would the old writers say about this device we have called television.  Would they have renamed it and called it DEVILVISION!!!

This is my opinion of what I think of television.  If I have offended anyone, my opologies - but hopefully, prayerfully, it will offend for your good.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Reformer on August 19, 2003, 06:14:59 AM
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I have often wondered what would the old writers say about this device we have called television.  Would they have renamed it and called it DEVILVISION!!!

This is my opinion of what I think of television.  If I have offended anyone, my opologies - but hopefully, prayerfully, it will offend for your good.

Oh you've probably offended most of the people here, but it's still totally true what you've said. Television is a giant electronic septic tank that man is addicted to. Even watching the news plays to our fears, egoes and sinful nature.

Like Diane said, people have become so use to having it, that they jump to defend watching it, even though it is morally indefensible. And I don't put myself above anyone else. I confess I've been guilty of it too. I don't excuse myself for having been seduced by this medium.

If the beast is the kingdom of Satan, then TV has got to be a vivid image of the beast, because it is Satan's messenger, and is spewing forth his lies, filth and degradation 24 hours a day. It has almost singlehandedly changed the world for the worse, with no end in sight to it's destruction.

I know, we're going to get this stream of Christians scolding us on how TV is not evil, and we're some kind of religious fanatics, but they are deluding themselves. We don't need to use TV for the news, a baby sitter, or to watch nature shows. We can do all of that without watching TV. That's not the truth, the trith is that it's entertainment. But the evil it does far outweighs any half-good thing anyone could think of. It literally brings tears to my eyes to think that christians cannot see what TV has done and is doing to our children, and society as a whole. Christians are just so gullible and easily led. At least I know there is one Christian who has these thoughts, and it's not just me.

OK, I'm off my soap box.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: george123 on August 19, 2003, 01:16:40 PM
I do not believe tv is evil why because it is an inanimate object. It is a tool to get a message out. I agree a large portion of TV is a negitive ungodly message but we Christians need to change that through our influence. Also the same point of A septic tank could be said of the internet. There are more pornography sites world wide then any other type of so called entertainment sites (games, forums, chats ect.).
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Dana Pescator on August 19, 2003, 02:20:57 PM
I do not believe tv is evil why because it is an inanimate object.


I think everyone knows that. A torture chamber is inanimate too, but it's still evil in my opinion.


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I agree a large portion of TV is a negitive ungodly message but we Christians need to change that through our influence.

That's wishful thinking. Like Lot trying to change Sodom.


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Also the same point of A septic tank could be said of the internet. There are more pornography sites world wide then any other type of so called entertainment sites (games, forums, chats ect.).

I don't believe that, but even if it is true it doesn't change anything. It's still a holding tank for excrement. And I've been on the internet for five years and have never seen porno, and have never been to a porno site. How about you? But I could turn on my TV right now and within minutes something immoral or ungodly will be coming over the airwaves. You can't get away from it.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Jen on August 19, 2003, 07:39:25 PM
A television in and of itself is not evil. If that were so then the computer is evil, the radio, is evil..etc.... etc....
When people answer a post in a forum it always amazes me at those who are ready to bash their fellow Christians. Yes, I know we all think "we are right". How about we try learning from one another?It is impossible to effectively communicate in a forum. Many peoples posts are misunderstood. The point of communicating is not for a person to just "speak their mind", nor is it just for someone else "to read the post". We only truly communicate when we both leave having understood one another. This can only be done through patience. I think some very excellent points have been made that could be helpful to others who maybe do not yet see the dangers of TV...the problem arises when someone has an attitude of "I know it all" (everyone else is just decieved). We all need to encourage one another to love and obey God's commands. If a person, like myself would like to know what the weather may be, then I can check the weather station. We do not get a newspaper so occasionally, I watch the local evening news. It can be helpful when children are abducted, or when traffic is bad, which both happen frequently here in Colorado. Most news can be labeled unneccessary, or gossipy, or just plain drama. I 100% agree that TV should be avoided at all costs. We should avoid sin and it's influences at all times and in all places. It is a waste of time that could be spent doing something fruitful. May we always encourage one another to seek and do that which is pleasing to the Lord with gentleness and love. I am thankful for the posts on this subject and shall pray for a greater understanding regarding this. Peace to God's people.
Jen......
Now leaving this computer which has great potential to cause me to go astray and be idle, I could ignore my children, my husband, my housework... and make the excuse..".but I am at a Christian website"...hmmm...maybe my motives should be checked why did I just spend spend 5 minutes replying to this post Ü.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: R.ellis on August 19, 2003, 10:45:03 PM
Jen,

I agree with your thoughts on communicating with one another, and learning from each other and even especially more so if we are of the household of Faith.

As I ended my post on this subject I informed others that this was my opinion, perhaps calling it my testamony would have been more proper.  I take very seriously about offending one of the Lord's sheep, but even the Apostle Paul refused to take back what he wrote when he made the, I believe the Corinthian Church, sorrowful.

I, like everyone else should want to learn from what others are trying to teach here and profit from each other.  I also believe that there are many here that have studied much longer than I and have many articles/posts worth reading.

But to get back to the television...even the Lord Jesus referred to "foolishness" as being one of the evils that proceeds from the heart of man.  Which tv station can a person watch that isn't bombarded with this form of evil, especially most tv commercials?

Lastly, I sympathise with anyone who is trying to wean off of tv, it is a powerful medium and I'm certain the Lord will help those who are learning to live without one.  I believe it was a year or two ago when it made national news that a man was going to marry his tv.  Anyone remember this story?  I only caught it in passing and don't remember much of the details.  Sadly that story substantiated for me the profound effect television has on fallen man.



Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: judykanova on August 20, 2003, 01:35:40 AM
Diane, thanks for starting this thread;and R.ellis,
I very much appreciate your testimony.  At the very least,  it brings attention to something many have grown so accustomed to, that we've even stopped questioning the impact tv has on us and others.  Whether we admit it or not, tv can easily capture and control our thoughts.  And as we know, sin extends to  our thoughts and emotions, as well as our actions.  In God's view, hatred is akin to murder (1 John 3:15); lust can be  akin to fornication (Matt 5:28),  etc.   In other words, God sees the heart and intentions of men and judges them accordingly (Heb 4:12).


To the extent that tv is allowed to control our thoughts and feelings,  it impairs our spiritual growth, our relationship with God and our relationship with others.  We underestimate the power of tv, just as we underestimate the power of thought:

Phil 4:8

Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Rom 1:21-22

21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,  

judy
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Jen on August 20, 2003, 09:28:18 AM
Dear R. Ellis,
I very much agree with your post and encourage the sharing of your testimony. I think that is one of the finest ways to learn from one another, by sharing what God and His Holy Spirit have taught us. We need to seek to live lives worthy of the gospel. Not that we ever could perfectly, but it should be the desire of our hearts.
I think we should all witness to others the danger of the "box" as I call it. I was telling my oldest son who is 8 about a supposed "family show" that was on TV. I told him that the two adults who "act" like they are married and "kiss and hug" on TV are not really married and may even have spouses of their own. When we watch this, we are participating in their sin, in the sense that we are enjoying their "acting".
I know that long before TV as we know it...Christians did speak out about "acting". Any form of pretending to be someone you are not, or doing something other than reality, in my opinion, is sinful. How can we keep our minds above on heavenly things, if we are acting like we are someone else.
I know I do not want to be anyone but a Child of God and a member of Christ's body. I think often we as Christians would make very different decisions if we were constantly aware that the Spirit of God and of Christ dwells in us. I always think to myself, could I watch this with Jesus, or could I listen to this with Jesus? That is what determines my thoughts on what is appropriate. May the LORD bless His people with discernment and an obedient heart and mind.
In Christ,
Jen
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: george123 on August 20, 2003, 01:43:47 PM
Dana Said:

I don't believe that, but even if it is true it doesn't change anything. It's still a holding tank for excrement. And I've been on the internet for five years and have never seen porno, and have never been to a porno site. How about you? But I could turn on my TV right now and within minutes something immoral or ungodly will be coming over the airwaves. You can't get away from it.



If I kept my tv on my local christian station all the time I would not see anything bad either, but are we talking about tv in general or the specific habbits of one user? Your point that you do not see porno does not make it true for everyone. Example durring Pres. Clintons Admin. a young girl in my son's elementary school accidentaly logged onto whitehouse.com instead of whitehouse.gov guess what happened.  You guessed a porno sight opened up. Now the school has filters but then they did not. So if you want to talk  about personal usage of computers or tv then no I have not seen porno on the net. If this is a general discussion then yes unsuspecting youngsters have. tv can be a tool for educating and getting the Gospel out or it can be used for wrong purposes.

Offenses are guaranteed to come but those by who they come will be punished.

Mt 18:7 -
Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!



Here the Bible tells us how the preaching of the Gospel turned the world upside down(shook people up) We are called to impact the world with our light. One of those ways I believe is to use any meadia outlet available to us. Paul preached from the pulpit of the unknown God.


 Ac 17:6 -
But when they did not find them, they dragged Jason and some brethren to the rulers of the city, crying out, "These who have turned the world upside down have come here too.


Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Daisy on August 20, 2003, 04:19:57 PM

If I kept my tv on my local christian station all the time I would not see anything bad either, but are we talking about tv in general or the specific habbits of one user?

What local Christian station is it that you can turn on anytime that is Biblical or that you wouldn't see anything bad? Where do you live? I see one 1 hour program in my area that might "pass" for being christian, but it's debatable.

So I have to disagree. I find very little that I could call good on Television these days. A few years ago and I would have agreed with you, but not anymore. Television has sunk to an all time low, so that even the family programs like the ones Disney produces has become sexual and immoral. Since Walt Disney died, that place has just been going to the dogs. Even if you watch nature programs they are constantly talking about natural selection or how the animals evolved this way or that way. There really is nothing that isn't tainted by satan on Television today.

By the way, I have kids too, they use the computer, and they've never been to a porno site or accidentally come across any porno (Their email is unpublished to avoid porno junk maill). Neither has any of my neighbors kids. I'm sure it happens, but to equate that to the constant filth coming from television is a bad analogy. Because you can't avoid it on tv. It's on every station.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Christ_Alone on September 02, 2003, 02:12:42 PM
I'm just wondering what you all think of television?  Do you have one in your homes?  If so, how often do you watch, or allow your children to watch.  Do you feel it is wrong to have and watch TV?  Why or why not?

Thanks.  
Carol



I haven't read the other replies, but this topic seems to be a large can of worms, for all kinds of reasons.

We have televisions in our homes, 1 for the main use, 1 for the playstation, and our 17 year old has one in her room.

The main tv, isn't on all that much.  My husband and I have a few shows that we really like, so we watch those - plus we rent movies about once a week.

The kids watch some tv during the summer, but during school days, no tv at all.

I certainly dont feel it's any more wrong to have & watch a tv, than it is to read a book, or go to a show.  It's a source of information & entertainment, and used discerningly, can be a great tool in the home.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Paul on September 05, 2003, 07:13:18 PM
they place the seating all around  me so everyone can see,when im entertaining no one talks but me.i am their teacher i teach them the worldly ways,i couldn't care less what their bible says.i use up many hours each and every day ,time they may have spent to read and even pray.there's some who try to leave me try to turn away ,but i mostly manage to  entice them back to stay.                              
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: jd@ on September 05, 2003, 08:27:14 PM
SIDE BY SIDE
Author Unknown

They lie on the table side by side
The Holy Bible and the T.V. Guide.
One is well worn and cherished with pride.
Not the Bible, but the T.V. Guide.

One is used daily to help folks decide.
No, not the Bible, but the T.V. Guide.
As the pages are turned, what shall they see.
Oh, what does it matter, turn on the T.V.

So they open the book in which they confide.
No, not the Bible, but the T.V. Guide.

The Word of God is seldom read.
Maybe a verse before they fall into bed.
Exhausted and sleepy and tired as can be.
Not from reading the Bible, from watching T.V.

So then back to the table side by side,
Lie the Holy Bible and the T.V. Guide.
No time for prayer, no time for the Word,
The plan of Salvation is seldom heard.

But forgiveness of sin, so full and free,
Is found in the Bible, not on T.V.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: iGreg on September 21, 2003, 11:18:34 PM
TV's are tools, niether good or evil. Just like computers etal.

However, if it were up to me we would go back to the good-ole days of censorship and the family hour.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Candle on April 16, 2004, 09:58:35 AM
i'm wondering if T.V.'S are idols ?I have one but I rarely watch it , but have two teenage girls that are unsaved . If I get rid of it  that it will create a big problem . What do I do?Any suggestions would be helpful :'(
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Ltanner09 on April 16, 2004, 05:29:18 PM
I don't think tv in itself would qualify as an idol.

Anything that substitutes the happiness, love or security one would find in the Lord could be viewed as an idol ( money being one example).


Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Candle on April 16, 2004, 11:56:45 PM
     Mr.warren could you address this question about the T.V. please?Thankyou candle
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Candle on April 21, 2004, 07:25:06 AM
               Ihave a question is there any teleevangelists thats biblically sound? I flick through the channels and there isn't much to watch , most of the time I just turn it off. Now about going to shows what are good shows? , how is that wittnessing to someone if your doing the same thing. God called a peculiar people. Is it right to play video games and what kind of games are good?  :-\ 
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Daniel on April 22, 2004, 11:45:14 AM
i'm wondering if T.V.'S are idols ?I have one but I rarely watch it , but have two teenage girls that are unsaved . If I get rid of it  that it will create a big problem . What do I do?Any suggestions would be helpful :'(
                                       

Hello candle,
      Go to the open forum. There is a post related to the TV.   
                                                                            Dan   :)




Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Candle on April 23, 2004, 12:37:35 AM
   I would really like to know how many people that fellowship on this forum have aT.V. set ?If it is really idolitry than it doesn't even matter what kind of shows you watch.  The same thing with video games,books that aren't God related movie videos etc....When it really comes down to it all your left with is the bible . Old testement , new testement godly people didn't have these things.    your friend in Christ ,Candle
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: jd@ on April 26, 2004, 09:55:51 AM
Just to answers your questions:

Yes.
1.
1 hour per day.
It's optional.
It doesn't have to be.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Joanne on October 24, 2004, 06:11:18 AM

It is said that there are people who do not believe that television becomes an object of slavery in the home, and for that reason we have to consider the power of it in the homes where it is allowed. Are people saying that television is a sin and we are slaves to it? I would like to know how they figure that? I watch a few hours of TV a day, and I don't feel that I am in any way a slave to it. Different people are affected different ways, don't you think?
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Shirley on April 03, 2007, 08:41:51 AM
Something I've been thinking about lately as I spend too much time watching TV. Then I came across this article. I'm interested in whether you all agree wirth it or not?


Is TV Really So Bad?
by Dr Joel R. Beeke



We are living in a sin-sick, morally degenerate, and pleasure-mad world. Our society continually demands entertainment, amusements, and pastimes at an ever-increasing level.  

What is the goal of this "continual-entertainment" spirit? To keep modern man happily busy.  

In a certain sense, entertainment does succeed in its goal. It keeps thousands and millions busy.  

The very words themselves reveal this fact. The word amusement comes originally from the French and literally means "to stare at fixedly so as to prevent musing or thinking."  The word pastime speaks for itself. It means to kill or use up time as a thing of little value; to pass time away. The root of the word entertainment means to divert. Thus it implies something which takes us away or diverts us from the normal, real world of everyday life.  

In other words, entertainment, amusements, pastimes are things which keep us busy - busy avoiding the realities of life and truth as they are set down in God's Holy Word. They keep us busy avoiding thinking about eternity, hell, heaven, sin, God, Christ, salvation, our own selves, and especially our need for a new heart.  

But if entertainment succeeds in its first goal of making man busy it fails miserably in its second: happily busy. Never has there been so much restlessness, dissatisfaction, and yes, unhappiness - in spite of the millions who immerse themselves in modern-day entertainment. Despite our freedom from poverty, our multiplication of opportunities in nearly every walk and aspect of life, plus our continual drinking in of entertainment - no age has been as unhappy as modern man.  

Entertainment can never give enough - it always leaves an empty feeling behind. The more it is practiced and relied on, the emptier it becomes.  

It has turned our society into an object of pity, for we are victims of our own system. Society goes full cycle, from being pleasure-hungry to pleasure-mania to pleasure-boredom.  

But do you know what is even worse? Not only the world, but also the church has begun sliding down the slippery slope of entertainment which can only end in sin, and disastrous results.  

Satan does not stop with liberal churches only. He comes also among us. We who believe that the truth is still preached among us - who know so well that the Word of God says, "Abstain from all appearance of evil," who read continually, "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me" - are also beginning to fall victim to the idolatrous god of entertainment.  

Step-by-step some are beginning to look for new things (in the church and outside of the church) with which we entertain and keep ourselves busy. Step-by-step the old-fashioned, plain gospel message with its emphasis on the necessity of conversion, is being increasingly de-emphasised. Less and less time is being spent praying together as a family, reading religious books together with children, talking together in family circles about spiritual matters.  

Are we not all guilty? Do we not all fall short in experiencing the reality of the seriousness of life, death, the judgment day, and eternity? Today we have a carefree, laughing society, but you never read in the Bible that Jesus took life lightly. Rather, especially referring to our day, He said: "Watch, and pray, and again I say unto you watch!"  

But by nature we don't watch. By nature our question is, "How far can I go and still not sin?" instead of, "How far can I flee from sin and avoid the very appearance of evil?"  

At the very heart and center of our modern entertainment spirit stands TELEVISION. This is an obvious fact. Television sets are in the homes of 97% of Americans today and 91% of all television time is dedicated solely to the purpose of entertainment. Entertainment-addiction and television-addiction cannot be separated from each other.  

Our society has become TELE-HOLIC. On a night when wives do not leave home, 95 out of 100 will spend it watching TV and 85% of their husbands will do likewise. Among teenagers, 80% will follow their parents' example, and 75% of children will also spend their evening drinking in the sin shown on TV.  

There are people, however, who do not believe that television becomes an object of slavery in the home, and for that reason we have to consider the power of it in the homes where it is allowed. I shall seek to show you from plain facts that a television owner usually becomes addicted to TV with respect to (A) TIME, (B) SIN, and (C) CONTROL.  

(A) TIME.  The average TV viewer spends 5½ hours per day watching TV. By the time an average American youth becomes sixty-five years old, he will have spent fourteen years of his life watching TV (compared to one year spent in church, Sunday School, and catechism if he comes faithfully to all). In the U.S.A. children three to five years old spend fifty-four hours every week watching TV, which is 64% of their time awake. When the average graduate from high school receives his diploma at seventeen years of age, he will have spent 11,000 hours of his life in school, but 22,000 hours watching TV. Every time an adult sits down to watch TV, he/she averages 3½ hours of watching time before turning the TV off. Children are glued to TV for an average of 2½ hours per sitting. With the exception of sleeping, the average American will spend more time in his life watching TV than anything else - yes even more than working. Do we not have a tele-holic society with respect to our precious, God-given time?  

(B) SIN.  TV is a flood of sin. It numbs its watchers against all ten commandments.  

  First commandment:  Anything we put above God becomes an idol. Modern man has become addicted to putting TV before God.  

  Second commandment:   If not in reality, in practice TV has become a graven image in the hearts of most of its watchers.  

  Third commandment:  TV causes its hearers to become addicted to hearing the name of the Lord used in vain. Profanity is used so often that it becomes an inoffensive thing. Few TV watchers realize that every time they willingly watch and hear such things, all those sins are reckoned to them on account of their willing participation.  

  Fourth commandment:  Even the Sabbath Day is not holy enough for TV watchers to keep it turned off, or, if a small percentage may still do so for conscience's sake, desire and craving for it usually remains even on the Lord's Day.  

  Fifth commandment:  TV does anything but honor father and mother. It continually degrades fatherhood and motherhood, and even frequently glorifies the disobedience of children. Family life, respect for authority, and obedience to government are repeatedly violated on program after program.  

  Sixth commandment:  Instead of "thou shalt not kill," one study reached the conclusion that by the time a child is fourteen at least 18,000 violent assaults and murders take place before his eyes. Another study confirmed that the average child between five and thirteen years of age soaks in 1,300 murders each year, so that violence, assaults, and murders no longer speak the message of sin or its consequences. Murders, hatred, violent actions and words assume  the role of normal behavior. The average child's program contains thirty-eight acts of violence per hour (adult program: twenty). A New York City judge who spent his life in courts judging juvenile delinquents and teenage criminals has plainly said that those who investigated the situation know that TV is a prime cause of crime. Another judge said: "Parents, one hour of TV can teach your children more crime, rebellion, smart-aleck freshness, and sex than you can counteract in months if you work at it."  

The trouble with violence on TV is that it does not show the real consequences of violence. The guilt that is left behind in the soul of the murderer, the bereaved family, the orphaned children, the filled hospitals, and the solemn graveyards are not shown. Especially in children's programs violence is often totally unreal. Their heroes are often crushed or blown into pieces and moments later reappear unscathed. TV is artificial violence glorified instead of showing real violence in all of its ugly and terrible long-term consequences. Is it a wonder then that there have been thousands of examples of tragedies nationwide when children have "played TV together"?  

  Seventh commandment:  How can the TV viewer remain pure with respect to the seventh commandment when seven out of eight references to sexual acts on TV take place between those who are not married? How can he remain pure when the TV viewer sees on an average of three times every hour sexual misconduct between unmarried adults? How can he remain moral when countless circumstances, conversations, immodest dress, actions, and behavior all point to the excitement and acceptability of sinning against the seventh commandment in a false and unrealistic way?  

  Eighth commandment:  Can an hour be found that goes by when TV actors do not unashamedly steal before their audience? It is not wonder that thousands of thefts in real life have been patterned after TV plots and heroes.  

  Ninth commandment:  Lying against a neighbor becomes a normal, acceptable, and even expected form of behavior on television shows.  

  Tenth commandment:  Covet is a desirable word for TV viewers. Constantly they are reminded through advertisements of a stream of unending luxuries which they are told they shall never be happy without. There is always something they must have which they don't have. The programs themselves are not an exception. For one man to covet another man's wife (or vice versa) is the main theme of entire shows.  

From beginning to end TV glorifies sin. On TV the only thing that is "sin" is morality. TV applauds sin, approves of sin, and forces its watchers to minimise sin through tens of thousands of countless repetitions. Over and over again the traditional family life is despised as old-fashioned: fatherhood is replaced with heroism via pathways of sin; motherhood is rejected as demeaning; obedience from children is laughed at as being too boring to be entertaining.  

TV has become a catalogue of sin, and all studies reveal it is getting worse. It has become the devil's classroom. The devil is smart enough to throw in a little religion too, and occasionally even a little morality, to pacify consciences enough not to throw it out. Does not TV make a tele-holic society with respect to sin when it feeds lust, perverts morals, presents impurity as love, pictures murder as thrilling, exalts nakedness and indecency as beauty, and seeks to legitimize all kinds of sin against every command of God?  

(C) CONTROL  Here the addiction becomes even more serious. Thousands of family fights take place regularly because no agreement can be reached on which show to indulge in. In American homes 35% of mealtimes are spent in front of the TV set. Nightly thousands of parents realize the programs that will come on are demoralizing and harmful for their children but yet are so hungry themselves to drink in the sin which they contain that they often let their children watch it too, having no power to control it.  

People who say they can control TV are usually speaking idealistically, not realistically:  

  (1) Our natural hearts love sin, our ears listen for sin, our eyes look for sin. That is just the problem with TV. It is not the box itself that is the problem, but it is our hearts. TV shows what the heart of man wants to see. We have enough "TVs" already in our hearts without buying one for our home. It is our "TV hearts" that are inclined to TV sets. We do not stand above a TV watcher - just the opposite. We desire to come so low that we confess we would not trust our own heart with such an instrument.  

  (2) Who is able to keep sin from flashing before them on the screen at any moment, whether it be through the program being watched or through advertisement?  

  (3) Is a person who has owned a TV set for some time, and consequently become hardened to many sins, really qualified to know what is necessary to "control"?  

Man does not control TV. TV controls him. Only one study of many will prove this point. Approximately four years ago in St. Catharines, Ontario, the newspaper headlines read one day: $500 paid for disposing of TV. The article went on to say that a study was done in Detroit in which the goal was to find out to what degree people are controlled by TV. Two hundred fifty families were scientifically selected from various races and classes to be offered $500 if they would live without their TV set for one month. After thirty days they could take it back in, and receive $500 free. Out of 250, only fifty families agreed to do it. How many families "made it" through this trial of thirty days? Eight! The other forty-two forfeited their $500 sometime during the month - one family took their TV back in on the 29th day. The eight who made it through were interviewed extensively. All said it brought their family closer together without TV. Six fathers said they first learned to know their children. One father said: "The day that I disposed of our TV  was the first day in twenty-five years that no one was killed in our living room, no sirens screamed, no shots rang out, no artificial merriment told us when to laugh, and no one slashed anyone else." And what was the final result of these eight families of whom seven said their family life was considerably more rewarding without TV? The last line of the article tells us: "All eight families took TV back in."  

Tele-holism. Knowing it does more harm than good, and still keeping it - that is slavery.  
Dear friend, I urge you to dispose of TV today on the following grounds:  

  (1) It is against the word of God. In Psalm 119 the Lord commands us to turn our eyes from vanity. The entire Bible speaks against television because of its unending list of evils.  

  (2) The sinfulness of television damages your own soul. Every secular and/or religious study has revealed TV's over-all effects. Since you know that we are fallen children of Adam and Eve, corrupt, and prone to backsliding, why do you unnecessarily feed your own corrupt nature with still more corruption through this instrument of sin?  

  (3) Studies on television reveal that TV also hinders the God-given treasure of family life and communion. This alone should be reason enough to dispose of TV immediately.  

  (4) By keeping television you are stepping on and fighting against your own conscience.  

  (5) You are wasting precious God-given time for which you will have to give an account one day. Would it not be far better that you take the time spent watching TV to read Scripture or good books, or listen to sermon tapes?  

Do yourself a favor: for the Word of God's sake, the church's sake, your own soul's sake, your family's sake, your conscience's sake, dispose of your television today. Do it permanently before you become its lifelong slave.  
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: judykanova on April 03, 2007, 10:31:39 AM
When it comes to TV, the internet, radio, or any other medium of this nature, I think the following simple principle should be applied:

Phi 4
8  Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.  

Of course, this principle rules out much of what's shown on TV or heard on the radio, etc.  But it's not the technology itself which is bad, it's the misuse for the promotion of ungodly thing in the interest of ungodly gain.  These things are especially harmful to young impressionable minds who haven't yet learned to discern between the true versus the false. 

Moreover, the real world is no less sinful than images on TV.  So as much as possible, we should learn to recognize and be on guard against outsides negative influences, and teach our children to do the same. 

Thoughts carry a power of their own, and we know that God's perfect law judges the thoughts/hearts as much as the deed, (which attest to the impossibility of man keeping the law perfectly and our desperate need of a Savior).  This is one of the reasons why we daily need to 'feed' our minds and souls with God's Word --  which is what "give us this day, our daily bread" is spiritually referring to in the Lord's prayer.

One can learn to channel their thoughts on things that uplift the spirit -- things that are good, lovely, true, pure etc. 
I also know that when I go for any length of time without reading the Bible or without prayer, I begin to feel empty inside and am more susceptible to sin.  It's these types of things that can attach our spirit, our hope and faith if we aren't constantly on guard.

Eph 6
14  Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15  And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16  Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17  And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18  Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;  


judy
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Messenger on April 10, 2007, 09:26:34 AM
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When it comes to TV, the internet, radio, or any other medium of this nature, I think the following simple principle should be applied:

Phi 4
8  Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Well said. TV, internet radio etc are only meduims but ungodly promotions through them are what we should be careful of.

There is no harm watching News, Discovery channel, National geographic and even Comedy shows provided nothing bad is promoted on that programme on that particular channel.

Above all we are mature enough to decide what's good for us and what is unprofitable for us and our children.Whatever we do we need to set an example for others.

1Ti 4:12 Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

Messenger

 :)
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Wall on October 29, 2007, 09:38:38 PM
I believe i read where its ok to watch some comedy shows. I really dont think theres one comedy on tv that does not use sex as the basis for there so called jokes. Everyone of those shows is perverted. I wouldnt be surprised if one writer wrote the scripts for all those shows. There all the same. One sex joke after another. An awful lot of them are real sick. Glad my kids are now grown up
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Raybob on February 13, 2008, 12:00:24 PM
I gave up TV in 1997.  I gave up alcohol in 1993.  Giving up TV was almost harder to give up than booze.  :o  I was always afraid I might miss something if I got rid of it.  I sure didn't miss a thing and I also sure got a lot more other things done in the past 10 years that I would only still be dreaming of doing if I still had a TV.

I wrote a song about it called "TV Blues".  If you'd like to hear it, go to https://myspace.com/raybobbowman/music/songs (https://myspace.com/raybobbowman/music/songs) and click on the third song on the list.

Raybob
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Hank on April 30, 2008, 04:38:35 PM
TV, like any other communications media, is abused and lends itself easily to worldly influences. At least the over-the-air broadcast TV is regulated to some extent, preventing some of the worst offence though not much.

On the other hand, the internet, movies, video games, multi-service providers (cable and satellite), are not regulated at all. The very best and the very worst can be observed.

Technology is not a sin, it is the use, that is called into question. As a Christian, I feel duty bound to reject many of the forms of "entertainment" presented on television. It is a far stretch, however, to think that by merely disposing of the TV, I am some how better for it. That same reasoning can be used to get rid of the internet, the newspaper, radio, and the library. It can also be used to argue against doing anything for entertainment, at all, including fishing, hunting, ball games.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Raybob on April 30, 2008, 05:08:08 PM
... It is a far stretch, however, to think that by merely disposing of the TV, I am some how better for it.

For me, there was so much I needed to do that I wasn't getting done.  When I got rid of TV, I got all those things done, not to mention the fact that I could spend more time reading my bible.  For those reasons, I believe I'm now a better man.

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That same reasoning can be used to get rid of the internet, the newspaper, radio, and the library. It can also be used to argue against doing anything for entertainment, at all, including fishing, hunting, ball games.

The big difference here is that if I go fishing, I'm teaching my boy how to do it at the same time, plus I'm spending time with him and talking to him.  With the internet or newspaper or library, I can choose what information goes into my brain.  With a TV, for every hour I spend watching, I've just had 20 minutes of information put into my brain that I didn't care about through the commercials.  Big difference.

Raybob

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Reformer on May 01, 2008, 09:05:33 PM
TV, like any other communications media, is abused and lends itself easily to worldly influences. At least the over-the-air broadcast TV is regulated to some extent, preventing some of the worst offence though not much.


..isn't that like saying my neighbor beats his wife all day and I only beat my wife a little bit? Broadcast TV 30 years ago might have had some redeeming qualities, but I can't find any today. Maybe Sesame Street, but even they push evolution now.


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Technology is not a sin, it is the use, that is called into question.

Granted. But having said that, can you name 3 broadcast TV programs, out of the hundreds,  that are God glorifying?

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Chicago Bear on June 27, 2008, 09:30:39 AM
I've considered this for a while, I guess not wanting to come to this conclusion, but I've finally concluded that the answer is an unequivocal YES!

 And there is no ifs, ands or buts about it. You cannot watch today's television without committing sin because we live vicariously through what comes over the airwaves. And its 95 percent sinful. And I'm being charitable. Even the gameshows promote envy and lust of wealth.

That said, even going to work, talking to neighbors and walking down the street one sees sin, but that doesn't mean we stop walking down the street or going to work. Its a puzzle. And I don't know the answer. Anyone care to comment or think they have any answers?


Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Raybob on June 27, 2008, 01:28:25 PM

TV sure seems to me to be that mouth.  :o

Raybob
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: rcjones on October 14, 2008, 08:25:48 PM
...

That said, even going to work, talking to neighbors and walking down the street one sees sin, but that doesn't mean we stop walking down the street or going to work. Its a puzzle. And I don't know the answer. Anyone care to comment or think they have any answers?

1Co 11:24  And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

There are few who question that the bread represents Christ on the cross,( even though his body was not broken there.)

De 8:3  And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Mt 4:4  But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Lu 4:4  And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

At the risk of being called a heretic, I remind us that "man does not live by bread alone."  suggesting that any activity that does not comply with "but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God" is an activity that does not contribute to life.

I believe the difference is instinctive living vs. intentional response to God.  It would be difficult to make a case that watching TV is an intentional response to God.

I see Gen 3 for the nature of original sin being instinctive living. (Looks good, smells good, I think I'll eat it...)
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Doug Johnson on October 18, 2008, 08:55:50 AM
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Is Watching Television A Sin?

No it is not. Is watching the world daily at work, on the street or as you live out your life, a sin? No, that's just a part of life. Don't listen to the closed minded worshipers of a book. God gave us minds, we should use them.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Melanie on March 29, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
 I think, in general terms, it is mostly sin, since most of what is on TV is either sin, or promoting sin in the form of ungodly influence, envy, discontentment, lust, ridicule, pride, hate, greed, rebellion or vanity. And no one can deny that it is addicting, like a drug, so that's not good. I guess we can make an argument that it is good for information and being informed, but other than that, what's good about it?

Having said that, I readily admit that I watch TV, and probably more than I should. So I feel like a hypocrite saying that I believe it is a sin. But I have to be honest about it. When I examine the issue thoroughly, it appears to be sin to me, at least most of the time. Maybe I'm wrong. But when Reformer asked, "can you name 3 broadcast TV programs, out of the hundreds,  that are God glorifying?" I couldn't. So what does that say?

 Php 4:8
 "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: William B on March 29, 2011, 04:37:33 PM
I think it really depends upon what you are watching. Everything on TV can't be a sin.  I watch a baseball game every now and again, so are you going to tell me that is a sin?  I really don't think that it is. I don't see anything in the bible that would indicate this. unless for conscience sake you believe it is.

"And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.  Romans 14:23"

So I would say if you think watching TV is a sin, then don't watch because it is a sin to you. But it may not be a sin to someone else.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Betty on March 30, 2011, 12:33:12 PM

 Would it be OK for me to say i think this whole issue is trumped up and silly? Because we all watch television and that doesn't affect our salvation one bit. It might be sin if we are watching porn, but to watch a football game, a movie, a sitcom or a variety show is not sin. Whoever says that is a legalist who wants to hang their own phobias on the rest of us.

1 Corinthians 10:30
  "But if I give praise to God for the food which I take, let no man say evil of me for that reason."

If we give thanks to God for allowing us the choice of watching TV, then who is another to declare it sin?
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: billnjune on July 20, 2011, 02:14:44 PM
Here is an article from 1990 but is still very practical with good guidelines .
TV GUIDANCE FOR YOUR FAMILY
Author unknown

  There's a monster in our house, and it wants my children all the time.  Worse yet, they want it and would choose it over other activities.

   Our monster is the TV.  Most families either struggle with controlling it, feel guilty that they don't, or suffer its ill effect.

   The A. C. Nielson Company reported that the average six to eleven year-old watched 27 1/2 hours per week.  Children under six often watch more.  Estimates range as high as 30 to 50 hours per week.

   U.S. News & World Report cites another statistic: between the ages of six and eighteen, American children watch fifteen thousand hours of television, two thousand hours more than they spend in school.

   As Christian parents, we are concerned about the values portrayed on television.  Most programs are filled with violence, sexual promiscuity, and materialism.

   Paul gives wise counsel in his letter to the Philippians.  He tells us, “whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable -- if anything is excellent or praiseworthy -- think about such things” (Philippians 4:8 ).

   It is extremely rare to find television programs that are true noble, right, lovely, excellent, pure, praiseworthy, and admirable.

   We need to ask ourselves, “Are the hours of quiet time when our children are pacified by television worth its negative effects?”  Most television programs portray values that are the opposite of Christian teachings.

   Also, consider what a child is missing during the hours he or she is engrossed in TV.  Television robs a child of time for reading, playing outside, doing homework, family interaction, playing games, and countless creative activities.

   “Watching television not only requires no skills but develops no skills,” says Neil Postman in The Disappearance of Childhood.  Research indicates that poor school performance may be linked to heavy TV viewing.

   “In its short lifetime, television has become the major stumbling block to literacy in America,” states Jim Trelease in The Read-Aloud Handbook.  “Our children must be taught in the home and the classroom how to cope with television.  They must be taught to control it instead of letting it control them.

   The problem can be solved.  It requires diligence, effort, and creativity on the part of the parent.  But, it is worth the time involved.  Limiting TV viewing pays big dividends in a closer walk with Christ, better family relationships, improved performance in school, increase creativity, and higher self-esteem.  Following are ten solutions that have been successfully used by others.

1.  Set firm limits.  At a family meeting decide on how much TV is appropriate for your family.  Some families have decided to eliminate it completely by going “cold turkey.”  Others limit TV to weekends only.  Some families allow a fixed number of hours per week.

   One family gave each child a limited number of coupons that could be exchanged for one half hour of TV from an approved list of programs.  Another solution is to give a child two or three dollars in quarters at the beginning of the week and require the child to pay twenty-five cents for each half hour watched.  Any money left over at the end of the week may be kept by the child.

   Many families restrict TV viewing during the week, allowing no TV on school nights. Minimal viewing is allowed on weekends, with children required to choose from an approved list of programs.

2.  Watch TV with your child.  Is the program appropriate for his or her age?  Is it violent?  Does it promote sexual activity?  Does it represent the values you are teaching your child?

   Talk to your children about how the values portrayed are different from biblical teachings.  How do TV characters solve their problems compared to the way Jesus teaches us to solve our problems?  Help your children become discriminating viewers.

   You can help them understand how commercials try to convince us to buy things we don't need.  Ads often promise their products will do more than they can do.

3.  Monitor TV programs.  Help your children monitor their viewing with a TV chart.  Ask them to write down each show watched and to rate it for very good to very bad.  A delightful resource to help children monitor their viewing is The TV Smart Book for Kids by Peggy Charen.

   Ask you children to write a report card for each show watched.  Have them rate it according to violence, values, and content.  Did it have a Christian perspective?  Was it boring?  Would they want to watch it again?  Would Jesus want them to watch it?  Encourage your children to become critical viewers and to watch only the best programming available.

4.  Don't use TV as a babysitter.  TV is a poor substitute for human companionship.  I have been guilty of allowing my kids to watch TV to keep them occupied when I needed uninterrupted time to get something done.  But although they were quite while watching, their behavior was worse (increased fighting, restlessness, irritability) after watching TV.

5.  Be a good role model.  Instill good habits by being a good example.  Don't be a “couch potato” and expect your child to want to watch also.  Limit the amount of time you watch TV.

6.  Make the TV inconvenient.   Some families put their TV in an out-of-the-way location, where it is inconvenient to watch.  One family didn't replace their antenna when it was blown in a windstorm.

   We live in an area with poor reception.  We subscribed to cable for a while, thinking our children would have better things to watch (i.e., Disney and nature shows).  The end result was that they watched more.  And cable offered many undesirable choices that required more monitoring.  We stopped cable service, and now we barely get two channels.  Most often there isn't anything interesting on.

7.  Encourage creative alternatives.  Stock up on arts-and-crafts supplies, models and simple science equipment.  Many books are available that give outstanding suggestions, including I Saw a Purple Cow and Mr. Wizard's Supermarket Science.

   Be willing to have more mess and as a result of creative play.  Teach your children responsibility by requiring them to clean up their own messes.

8.  Read, read, read.  Most children, because they watch less TV, begin to read more.  Include a weekly trip to the library as part of your schedule.  Try to read to your children every night.

   “Readers have become an endangered species,” says Jim Trelease in his highly acclaimed film Reading Aloud: Motivating Children to Make Books into Friends, Not Enemies.  “Reading is a torch that must be passed from generation to generation.”

9.  Have a family game night.  You can plan special nights for family games.  We enjoy Bible Pictionary, Bible Trivia, and others.  Our children love to play charades and enjoy watching Mom and Dad act like clowns.  We all laugh and have a wonderful time together.

   It can be more festive if you invite another family to join you.  Plan simple snacks, and you will have an inexpensive and fun evening to remember.

10.  Plan family outings.  You can encourage family togetherness by taking trips to museums, zoos, factories science centers, arboretums, etc.  On a nature walk with your child you can look for the beauty of God's creation.  What about building a fort or clubhouse?  How about flying a kite or launching model rockets, fishing or bird-watching?

   Ask your children what they would like to do.  Have them help you come up with creative suggestions.  We treasure the memories of our family activities and look forward to many more adventures.

   Television doesn't need to be a monster in our homes.  It can be tamed.  And it needs to be tamed.

   Television portrays the opposite of the sanctified life.  God calls us to be holy.  We can strive toward holiness by avoiding the negative influences in our lives.  Eliminating or restricting TV viewing is one way to this.  Then we can live a life that is more pleasing to God.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Pearson on July 21, 2011, 10:09:08 PM
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Thanks billnjune, that's a real good start. Unfortunately, no one seems to listen to either good teachings or good advice anymore.


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Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Melanie on July 22, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
 Who are we kidding? 90% of the time, watching TV is a sin. Based upon what is on, and what it does to us.

 The liberal ideas, sex, violence, homosexuality, Godlessness, evolution, pride, immorality of every kid, love of money, vanity, gossip, dishonor of parents, exalting sin, sloth, discontentment, voyeurism, the list goes on and on. We are lucky if 10% of TV is not sinful. And that's being generous. I turned on the TV yesterday and saw a program  where Parents were dressing their 6 year olds up like street walkers, putting makeup and lip stick on them and letting them get on stage and do a dance patting their butts and saying how sexy they are. And everyone laughs and says how cute they are. I feel like an alien, because I think I was the only one in the group who seems to be offended by such behavior of Parents. Now that's child abuse, not spanking. And this is typical TV stuff.

 The problem is just as Tony Warren said in his article. Not that this isn't true about TV, but that we just don't want to give it up because we are addicted to it.

Yeah, watching TV is a sin in the same way that watching porn is a sin. Vicarious participation.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Reformed Baptist on July 23, 2011, 07:32:13 AM
Not that this isn't true about TV, but that we just don't want to give it up because we are addicted to it.

Yeah, watching TV is a sin in the same way that watching porn is a sin. Vicarious participation.


I'll say Amen to that. I admit that it is an addiction. But like any addiction, it is very difficult to break the habit.

"For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another".
 Galatians 5:13

We should not serve the flesh, but serve God in the spirit. But TV is such an integral part of everyone's life. Should we go back to living like Quakers with horse drawn carriages? I don't think so. So there has to be a happy medium. I just don't know where it is.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Maurice on July 23, 2011, 08:03:00 AM

That's crazy. How can watching an inanimate object be a sin?  The sin, if there is any, is in you, not in watching television. I don't think that TV has hurt anyone, I think it is a convenient target for people who don't like progress.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Trotter on July 23, 2011, 10:00:57 AM

That's crazy. How can watching an inanimate object be a sin?

Really? Then how could bowing down to an inanimate object like an Idol have been sin? But it was because the sin is in us being deceived by it, not the object itself. Whether idolizing a TV or a image of stone, the principle is the same.


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The sin, if there is any, is in you, not in watching television.

That doesn't make sense, since you are the "one watching TV." So you and watching, go hand in hand.


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I don't think that TV has hurt anyone, I think it is a convenient target for people who don't like progress.

 TV has hurt everyone in that it is a brain-washer. It acclimates us to sin.  And if we don't know that by now, we have our heads stuck in the sand.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: midas on July 23, 2011, 11:19:13 AM
•  A TV set in itself doesn't know the difference between good and bad - however a Christian does
•  It's what you watch - Cooking Shows vs Dracula Movie
•  How much time do you watch TV vs reading the Bible

I don’t think watching TV is a sin every time you turn it on – just like the computer, internet, reading books and telephone - It depends on what you are using these for. There can be sin in all of these or good in all of these depending on your “reason”.

Romans 12:2  And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Reformer on July 24, 2011, 05:51:21 AM

That's crazy. How can watching an inanimate object be a sin?  The sin, if there is any, is in you, not in watching television. I don't think that TV has hurt anyone, I think it is a convenient target for people who don't like progress.


How can it be sin? The same way looking at a nude picture can be sin.

 Mt 5:27  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
 29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

It's the "eye" that needs to be plucked out, and God isn't talking about physically. We need to sacrifice, give up that thing that is causing us to sin. In this case, 90 percent of TV.

More than an addiction, the incessant watching of TV is most times a temptation and journey into idolatry. Television is the new method of idolatry where we can hide behind the black box and entertain our carnality, our hate, greed, lusts, pride, discontentment and glory in others pretending that it is not us.

The proof that we are addicted to it is that we cannot give it up, even when we know we are watching trash 90 percent of the time. And by our addiction to it, we confess that we are slaves to it, to serve it as master. That is why so few Christians will admit that they are addicted to TV. They pretend like they're watching cartoons and all educational programs. That's nonsense! It is just like with smoking cigarettes, they will claim they can stop watching it any time they want. But like cigarettes, if they really can, why don't they? Because they really enjoy it too much.

They delude themselves while this little box controls their lives. How do you think there is so much acceptance of the pervasive sexual freedom in the world? Or how do you think our children got to be the way they are today? So immoral, disrespectful of parents, the liberal ideas and fads? They were tempted and drawn away by what they see and hear on Television. Children cannot watch this garbage day in and day out and not be influenced by it.

Why do you think God told the Israelites to separate themselves from the other worldly nations? So they would not be seduced by their ways and their gods. Christians are so naive and foolish today. Both parents go off to work allowing TV and liberal day care centers to train their children. Rather than be parents, they choose to covet position and station in life. The only way out of this temptation and idolatry is through sacrifice. If thine eye offends thee, pluck it out! And that comes only through Christ.

 1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
 14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
 
Separate yourselves from idolatry. Don't show your children the lusts of the flesh. Because Television is an evil box that can convince even the most adult and intelligent person to believe things their trust meter would normally alert them as being ridiculous. Evolution, Confusion, Mean-spirited, Promiscuity, Self-centeredness, Homosexuality, Disrespect, overindulgence, spoiled children, dishonest and lazy are  prime examples of the evils that have been brought to the forefront by TV. We've been so conditioned to it by television that I've even heard Reformed Christians "right here" who you would think would normally be on God's side of the issue, give place, credence and credibility to partial acceptance of all these issues. From sympathy for homosexuality (which God abhors), to resignation that there will be sex before marriage, to questioning the original one man Adam design as maybe being "through" evolution. Right here from what would normally be considered biblical Christians are those who have been slowly seduced by these TV programs. They were all influenced by the growing cancer eating away at God and morality. And just like in the flesh, generally people don't realize they have the cancer until it is to late.

Would I eliminate it all together? Probably not. But Christians need to get a grip on on that monstrosity in their homes. For themselves, but especially if they have impressionable children in the house. And not worry about being archaic. By grace of God your children will thank you for it when they are grown. And if not, God's will be done in all things.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Sportsnut on July 24, 2011, 11:53:09 AM

 My unsaved friends decry it, but my Christian friends do not.  Listen to this guy Jerry Mills, who's not even christian.

 http://www.jerrymills.com/ss_ll2_tv.html

 Strange how unsaved people can generally see it, but most Christians cannot. Kinda backward, isn't it?
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Stephanie on July 24, 2011, 12:55:53 PM

 I have a question. Why are so many of you so hard on Christians? You seem to be harder on Christians than you are on the unbelievers.  Shouldn't we be easier on Christians than on our enemies?

Some Christians watch bad programs, but all unbelievers watch sinful programs. Give Christians credit for being part better, rather than all bad.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Chicago Bear on July 25, 2011, 02:44:38 PM

 I have a question. Why are so many of you so hard on Christians? You seem to be harder on Christians than you are on the unbelievers. 

Unbelievers at least have unbelief. Christians should know better, don't you think?

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Reformer on July 26, 2011, 01:16:19 PM

 I have a question. Why are so many of you so hard on Christians? You seem to be harder on Christians than you are on the unbelievers. 

Unbelievers at least have unbelief. Christians should know better, don't you think?




They should, but they don't. Christians "pretend" that they're not sinning when they watch TV programs they shouldn't, rather than confess their weakness and sin in praying the Lord help them to stop living in the flesh. It's always the same old, "TV is not all bad." Of course TV is not all bad, but the programs Christians are watching generally are. I have asked Christians what they watch and they hedge and finally say things like, "Minute to win it," "the Discovery channel," "Cops," "Ellen Degeneres," "American Idol," "Big Brother," "Educational TV," "CSI," "Apprentice," "Nature," "Oprah Winfry," and "the News." Now what redeeming value would anyone get from any of those programs, except possibly the News. Even Nature, Disney and Discovery channel is filled with false ideas, immorality and teachings of evolution.

 Nu 20:15 How our fathers went down into Egypt, and we have dwelt in Egypt a long time; and the Egyptians vexed us, and our fathers:
 16 And when we cried unto the LORD, he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth out of Egypt: and, behold, we are in Kadesh, a city in the uttermost of thy border:

Who is vexed by what is spiritual Egypt today? One thing that I notice is that as the years go by, there are less and less biblical Christians on the InterNet and more and more modern type Christians who see all righteousness as legalism and without grace. I see this as a sign of the times, just as I see the rationalization of watching most all TV programs. It's like the unsaved guys I used to know claiming that they buy playboy for the good articles. Yeah, right! And Christians watch TV for the Christian programming. It's all rationalizations. We don't watch TV because of the Christian programs on it, because I really haven't seen a Christian program on TV in years. We watch it to be entertained by the world.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Raybob1 on October 03, 2011, 09:10:41 AM
TV (media) is the "mouth" that is given to the beast that speaks blasphemy. 
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Melanie on July 30, 2015, 04:36:09 AM
If I kept my tv on my local christian station all the time I would not see anything bad either,

I don't believe that for one moment. Your local TV station or network is I'm pretty sure unbiblical and unchristian, because I've only seen a few individual Christian "shows" in my entire life that were Biblical, much less whole Christian stations or Christian networks. Where are you finding these stations where there is nothing bad on them all day long? What's the name of the station, I want to look it up? Are there any reformed Christian TV stations in existence?


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but are we talking about tv in general or the specific habbits of one user?

TV in general, which is all bad, all the time. Unless you consider the Christian Broadcasting Station good. Where I am, I can't name one single show that is Christian. That is to say, real Christian. A few Pentecostal shows and the CBS but nothing Biblical. As far as I'm concerned, television is not only sinfully addicting but it also is a gigantic waste of time that breeds idleness and neglectfulness. It also exposes our children to undue pressures, sins, lusts and bad worldly influences. 

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Lieberman on August 01, 2015, 08:23:45 PM
The only (alleged) Christian programming in my area (I don't have cable) is the CBN, and I don't consider that Christian.  Yes, there's almost constant sin on TV, but what about news programs? Can we watch those? It seems to me that's more information rather than vicarious programming.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Rose on August 01, 2015, 09:27:07 PM

Don't you think that you guys (and girls) are being a little too pious? You're not in the kingdom of heaven yet.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Betty on August 02, 2015, 11:28:53 AM

Don't you think that you guys (and girls) are being a little too pious? You're not in the kingdom of heaven yet.

 &TY  My thoughts exactly Rose. What's that old expression? "Don't be so heavenly minded that you're no earthly good."

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Tony Warren on August 02, 2015, 12:07:57 PM
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&TY  My thoughts exactly Rose. What's that old expression? "Don't be so heavenly minded that you're no earthly good."
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Yes, we've all heard that expression before, and it's usually from someone attempting to justify their disdain for someone "exhorting obedience" to God's word. But is that natural or is it purified? Is that carnal or spiritual? Yes, in some circles, Christians who are attempting to have a mind as close to Godliness as possible are considered vain and their actions a bad thing (visa'vis, the Lordship Salvation thread). The only problem with that philosophy is, it isn't! To me, this expression puts forth a false idea that thinking too much about heaven, or living and working on earth as a pilgrim and stranger here in anticipation of arriving at our real home heaven, is a negative thing. I don't buy that type of thinking. Moreover, can we even be "too" heavenly minded? I don't think that is possible, unless you use the phrase in a sense where someone becomes a monk hidden in isolation where it keeps them from their work, the great commission. But other than something like that, I don't think in any sense of the phrase it is possible. Indeed, we should be as heavenly minded as possible. Because when we are truly risen with Christ, good God breathed works of obedience follows specifically because we have a mind that is so set on heavenly things.

Colossians 3:1-2

God says we are to set our affections on heavenly things. It doesn't say, "...but not too much." Because we are dead, and spiritual beings and our life is hid with Christ in God Most of what is on TV is of this earth sinful and worldly, so why would any Christian condemn another for refraining from watching such when it is sinful to him or her. To their God they stand or fall, it doesn't make them sinfully pious because they set their affections on heavenly things rather than earthly ones. It could be that they are simply more conscientious of such temptations, which again is a good thing. I would never accuse them of wrong doing for wanting to be closer to God or farther away from the world. No one knows what is in the heart of any Christian who abstains from watching TV but God. And since refraining from TV is decidedly not a sin, no one should accuse anyone of the sin of being "no earthly good" for doing so. IMHO.

1st Corinthians 2:14-16

I believe the truly "heavenly minded" person will not only be of great earthly good, but will recognize the carnal or natural inclination to the ideas and lusts of the world, for exactly what it is. Rather than attributing an aversion to such worldly things as "too much Godliness for their own good," I praise them for their vision.

"nosce te ipsum"
Tony Warren

"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"
The Doctrines of Grace!
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Mila Ostrovsky on August 05, 2015, 03:13:40 AM
Don't you think that you guys (and girls) are being a little too pious?

No, I really don't. The dictionary gives one definition of piousness as making a hypocritical display of virtue. I assume you're using the word in the sense of sanctimonious, hypocritical or self-righteous. This is not what we are doing in saying TV is by and large, a source of sinful behavior. Being conscientious doesn't make anyone holier-than-thou, it's a good thing.
"pious platitudes"


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You're not in the kingdom of heaven yet.

Actually, we are. We have been ever since we were regenerated in Christ.

 Colossians 1:12-13 "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:"

 Anyone who has not be translated into the kingdom yet, isn't saved.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: bloodstone on August 07, 2015, 01:11:06 PM
"Television is a medium, rarely well done."  ;)
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Reformer on August 11, 2015, 11:11:09 AM

"Television is a medium, rarely well done."  ;)

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:   Sooooo true!
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Gerry on August 28, 2017, 12:11:27 AM

This thread may be a little old, but I find it topical today and very interesting. But I would like to know specifically why so many of you think watching Television  is contrary to scripture? Since I watch some TV which I don't think is sinful, I would like to know why you think it is.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Alex Rowland on August 28, 2017, 11:34:18 AM
we don't, at least not all of us. I certainly don't. Like anything else, it must be done in moderation, and by controlling what we and our children watch. Saying TV is sinful is like saying eating is sinful. It all depends on how much you eat. Same with watching TV.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Tony Warren on August 30, 2017, 09:06:25 AM
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This thread may be a little old, but I find it topical today and very interesting. But I would like to know specifically why so many of you think watching Television is contrary to scripture? Since I watch some TV which I don't think is sinful, I would like to know why you think it is.
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No, watching TV in and of itself is not a sin, but nearly everyone sins watching TV.

Of course, that's not something we all want to hear.

Matthew 18:9

In other words, if watching television causes you to sin or to stumble, or others around you to sin or to stumble, better to remove that from your orbit.


"nosce te ipsum"
 
Peace,
Tony Warren
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Diane Moody on August 30, 2017, 11:45:40 PM

No, watching TV in and of itself is not a sin, but nearly everyone sins watching TV.

Of course, that's not something we all want to hear.



 :Goodpoint:
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Jeff on September 01, 2017, 04:13:27 AM

As they say, "true dat"
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Brian on September 01, 2017, 09:58:05 AM

An excellent article on this subject is by John Piper.

Why I Don't Have a Television and Rarely Go to Movies

http://www.truthaccordingtoscripture.com/documents/articles/tv-john-piper.php
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Apostolic on September 02, 2017, 01:27:59 AM
I don't know about you guys and gals, but I can watch TV without sinning.

I Cor. 15:34 "Awake to righteousness, and sin not;"
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Frank Mortimer on September 02, 2017, 05:30:15 AM
I don't know about you guys and gals, but I can watch TV without sinning.


  So you're the ONE?
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Reformed Baptist on September 02, 2017, 05:50:04 PM
I don't know about you guys and gals, but I can watch TV without sinning.


  So you're the ONE?

 :) I am thoroughly convinced that anyone who says that they "never" sin by watching TV is not fully aware of what sin is.


1 John 1:8King James Version (KJV)

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Tony Warren on September 03, 2017, 04:07:05 AM
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  So you're the ONE?

 :) I am thoroughly convinced that anyone who says that they "never" sin by watching TV is not fully aware of what sin is.
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...and all God's people said,  A M E N !

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Scotty on November 28, 2017, 01:38:07 PM
My first day here and first post.
   I was searching the Bing for information on the image of the beast and finally came upon this thread. Can I assume that some of you think that television is the image of the beast since so many worship it? I had a thought that Television fits its description. Don't we all in some way worship the television set? In fact, we can't do without it. It's where we get our news, morality, education, it teaches our children and picks our rulers. Wouldn't the world have been a better place without the invention of Television?
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Erik Diamond on November 28, 2017, 02:18:36 PM

Welcome Scotty to Mountain Retreat.
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Can I assume that some of you think that television is the image of the beast since so many worship it? I had a thought that Television fits its description.

The image of the beast is not a physical object.  The television and of itself is not evil.  Just because some people watching something that does not glorify God does not qualifies their televisions as the image of the beast of Revelation 13.  There are Godly people who uses television to listen to sermons, for DIY projects, etc.  By the way, I do believe that the television is losing its glory to mobile phones where almost everyone are using it to watch same TV shows, social media, chat, shopping, gaming, reservation, etc. It is people who abused their mobile phones for their sinful desire, but that does not means the mobile phones are the image of the beast, too.   

In order to know what is the image of the beast, we need to understand who are the beast of Revelation 13.  I suggest that you read the following link below and read couple of posts wrote by Tony Warren. Please feel free to ask more questions. 

The Image of the Beast  (http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=1463.msg34644#msg34644)
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Halle on November 29, 2017, 01:55:48 AM
My first day here and first post.
:welcome:

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Don't we all in some way worship the television set? In fact, we can't do without it. It's where we get our news, morality, education, it teaches our children and picks our rulers.

(http://deeptruths.com/excerpts/images/a_image_of_the_beast.jpg)

I believe that TV is a image or likeness of the Beast, but it is not the image of the beast. I believe that there is a difference. It is a likeness of the Beast for all the reasons you listed and more. From reading the thread I think that most of us recognize the images and evil portrayed on TV for what it is As for worship, I believe that anything evil that we cannot give up is a form of idolatry and worship.

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Wouldn't the world have been a better place without the invention of Television?

 :thinker: That's a very good question. I'm leaning toward saying yes. It's debatable though. There is very little good come from it as compared to the evil, so yeah!

Also, I would say the mobile phone, computers and TV are synonymous for this question.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Tony Warren on November 29, 2017, 06:57:29 AM
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Wouldn't the world have been a better place without the invention of Television?

 :thinker: That's a very good question. I'm leaning toward saying yes. It's debatable though.
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That IS a very good question, but since we have Television across the world, it was ordained to be so. As a goad, as a trial, as a judgment--God knows.


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There is very little good come from it as compared to the evil..
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 :iagree: At least not in recent history. In my view, it's hard for conscientious Christians to honestly argue that Television is not a image (likeness / representation) of the beast, or more accurately put, "a reflection" of the spirit of antichrist, spirit of Satan or spirit of disobedience. For if you can sit in front of it for any length of time and conclude it is a God glorifying medium, you are kidding (Lying to) yourself. For whatsoever is not of faith is sin (Romans 14:23). For many things that are lawful are not expedient, and Television today is one of them.

Philippians 4:8

I have to say I agree with Halle that most of us in this forum recognize the subtle and inconspicuous way that Television portrays sin or wickedness as some form or caring, modernism, love, progressive thinking, justice, goodness, or NEW understanding of the ancient Histories, and Hebrew or Greek languages or idioms. A likeness of the Beast? Most definitelty. If it doesn't actually come from the Bible, it's not the word of God it is subjection and assumptions. And this is the primary teaching methodology of Television. i.e., "this is what we think and we are experts on what is just and righteous, not God." Just like those in the church who have mimiced them, those outside the church make themselves a god to be worshiped by their ego.

Ezekiel 22:28

Prophets and non prophets alike have used Television to make the Lord into a Liar and place themselves upon His throne as the final arbiter of truth. Though I have said many times that a Television is an inanimate object, and as such unlikely in and of itself to be wicked--I cannot deny that today it is almost always used to teach, propagate, generate, breed or provoke sin and rebellion against God's laws. Any honest Christian would be hard pressed to argue that point Biblically. Indeed, through this medium many evils are imaged as necessary evils or a justifiable lack of integrity and Godliness. I would say the widespread insurrection of children, the immorality of dress, the increase in wickedness, the pride of vanity, the lack of honesty, the lack of charity in the selfishness of man (as opposed to Godly selflessness), the rebellion against governments, the sexual revolution, the insubordination against the creation ordinance between men and women, the indifference toward the solemn oath of the unbreakable marriage covenant, the callousness toward God's declaration of hating divorce, the loss of family values/traditions, etc., etc., came primarily through the television sets of the world! It came through the pedantic voices of the talking heads demonstrating in their learning, neither their learning, nor wisdom.

2nd Timothy 3:6-7

Like Jannes and Jambres, these talking heads in the spiritual insanity promote the likeness of the beast all over the world, changing hearts and minds with their incessant propaganda against God's social ordinances. This inanimate object called Television, unquestionably reflects the likeness of the Beast in the spirit of rebellion among the children of men. Yes, for the majority of people who are not Spirit led, this resemblance to the likeness of the beast is almost imperceptible because they see these abominations as either inconsequential or mere bumps in the road.


"nosce te ipsum"
 
Peace,
Tony Warren
"I acknowledged my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. -Psalms 32:5"
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Halle on November 29, 2017, 09:43:16 AM
The television and of itself is not evil.  Just because some people watching something that does not glorify God does not qualifies their televisions as the image of the beast of Revelation 13.  There are Godly people who uses television to listen to sermons, for DIY projects, etc.

Erik, not to challenge you but can you tell me one God glorifying program that is on your TV. I need a reference point, something I can look up and see that it's true that TV isn't 99 percent evil. Cabnn you tell me the name, station and what time it comes on?

Where I live, I can't find even one as the airwaves are full of fear mongering, anti-religion propaganda, sexual and violent dramas, promotions of abortion, divorce, evolution, the dissolution of the family, and railing on anyone who dares speak out against immorality of our youth.

You say there are good programs on, please name some verifiable shows. Because I think people in general just say that to justify watching what is actually on TV which is pure entertainment, lust and brain washing.

The sermons I see on TV are not by faithful preachers who believe in the Bible alone.


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By the way, I do believe that the television is losing its glory to mobile phones where almost everyone are using it to watch same TV shows, social media, chat, shopping, gaming, reservation, etc.

Mobile phones will probably fit the same category of over the air broadcasts like TV.

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It is people who abused their mobile phones for their sinful desire, but that does not means the mobile phones are the image of the beast, too.   

Not the very image, just a reflection of the image. A conduit for the beast.

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Erik Diamond on November 29, 2017, 11:47:11 AM
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I have to say I agree with Halle that most of us in this forum recognize the subtle and inconspicuous way that Television portrays sin or wickedness as some form or caring, modernism, love, progressive thinking, justice, goodness, or NEW understanding of the ancient Histories, and Hebrew or Greek languages or idioms. A likeness of the Beast? Most definitelty. If it doesn't actually come from the Bible, it's not the word of God it is subjection and assumptions. And this is the primary teaching methodology of Television. i.e., "this is what we think and we are experts on what is just and righteous, not God." Just like those in the church who have mimiced them, those outside the church make themselves a god to be worshiped by their ego.

I understand however, don't you agree that the context of Revelation 13:12-16 is speaking about the Congregation of God, the Church, where false prophets rule.


Rev 13:11-14
[11]  And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12]  And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13]  And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14]  And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

The second beast represents the false prophets who have deceived the unfaithful people of the congregation by the means of false miracles, signs and wonders through doctrines and teachings of false prophets. They have power that comes out of their mouths that gives life to the image of the beast. This is how they kill Two Witnesses by extinguish the truthful testimony... in the church, right?  Yet you think it is because of television as the image or reflection of the beast that the false prophets and christs are using against their church? 

Please help me understand better how do you reconcile television with the context of Revelation 13? 

Thanks
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Erik Diamond on November 29, 2017, 12:11:38 PM
Quote from: Halle
Erik, not to challenge you but can you tell me one God glorifying program that is on your TV. I need a reference point, something I can look up and see that it's true that TV isn't 99 percent evil. Cabnn you tell me the name, station and what time it comes on?

I only have internet and use HDTV televisions as a monitors for my computer, mostly for design work and of course this forum. :-)   I do not have a cable TV or airwave. I do not watch ungodly sitcoms, programs, or even sports like most people do. With the internet, I went to websites like I'll be honest (https://illbehonest.com/) and listen to some sermons by pastors that I thought is pretty good like Paul Washer. I also enjoyed DIY sites like Pinterest to build wood tables. 

I agreed with Tony that most, if not all television programs, are not glorifying God.  I did not watch shows today but I did hear its so bad that I even caught some of my own relatives allowing these type of shows, like Will and Grace, or modern family, to come into their houses where they accused me of being a Pharisee when I visited.   ::)

I, myself, remember enjoyed watching rerun shows like the Little House on the Prairie. Of course, I have noticed that all shows like that has been replaced with more ungodly programs for the past generation that Tony has described. That is why I no longer watch TV programs show anymore and focus more on Bible and my children. Honestly, it is the mobile phones that is starting to affect me and my children.  :-[

Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Kenneth White on November 29, 2017, 06:55:27 PM
Not the very image, just a reflection of the image. A conduit for the beast.

Hmmmmmmm.  :thinker:
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Rupert on December 01, 2017, 03:18:39 AM
Beside from this site, I found this very helpful also.

http://www.truthaccordingtoscripture.com/documents/articles/should-christians-watch-tv.php
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Joe Johnson on December 01, 2017, 10:22:24 AM
What are you guys smoking? This forum is very liberal and amillennial, which warps your sense of what is conservative and righteous. Watching TV is not wicked. There are good programs and there are bad programs. It's you who has to decide what is good and bad. It's called free will, which I'm sure most of you are against that too. Maybe you should tune into ABC Family or Freeform with Pat Robinson and cast the devil out.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Scotty on December 03, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
Thanks. I know that there is very little (if any) redeeming value to television, except maybe to warn of some impending disaster or something like that. But otherwise I find it pulling my mind in the wrong direction of thought. I've cut way back on it, but I admit Not as much as I should. I like Halle's description of it as a conduit for the Beast. That seems to fit perfectly. Any suggestions on how to wean oneself from it?
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Lieberman on December 03, 2017, 03:19:57 PM

Yes,
  Mark 9:47 "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out:"

Don't wean yourself from it like an addiction, cut if off like a cancer.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Soldier on December 04, 2017, 06:40:48 PM
Easy to say, hard to do.
Title: Re: Is Watching Television A Sin?
Post by: Manuel on December 09, 2017, 04:31:12 PM
Easy to say, hard to do.

 :iagree: