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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by savedbysovereigngrace99 on Today at 12:20:47 AM »
Lets discuss what Jn 6:44 says. Does any man have the ability to come to Christ?

Yes, after the father draws him by dying for all men. That's what I have been telling you.

Your answer is in direct opposition to the scripture. No man has the ability to come to Christ. Jn 6:44
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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by Erik Diamond on Yesterday at 08:47:41 PM »
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That's correct.

No it does not. This is not what verse is saying. It is your private interpretation of it that is an error.

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Yes, he will have all men drawn to himself, but only those who by free will come, will be saved.

Incorrect.  Christ died for HIS PEOPLE alone and fully paid for all of their sins. Therefore God will draw all men WHOM HE HAS CHOSEN UNTO SALVATION.

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Yes, after the father draws him by dying for all men. That's what I have been telling you.

No, God did not died for 'all" men, but "all" of His People. Please show me the verse that you "think" that God died for "all" men.


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Theology / Re: Pope Tells Gays 'God Made You Like That'
« Last post by David Knoles on Yesterday at 08:18:40 PM »
First of all, this over-used fable in appealing to divine providence by claiming "God made me this way," is without any merit.

Their opinion has just as much merit as your opinion. I don't agree with the Pope, but I won't be so arrogant as to say his opinion has no merit. Or his church is antichrist. That's just bad manners.
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Eschatology / Re: The Bible Versus Dispensationalism
« Last post by David Knoles on Yesterday at 08:02:46 PM »
At least he believes that Israel will be saved later, unlike most of you who claim they can't e the kingdom reign anymore.
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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by David Knoles on Yesterday at 08:00:59 PM »
Thatís not in harmony with Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

If you don't have faith, you can't be saved. You can't have faith without God's grace upon all men to have the ability to come to him, but only some will by their own free will.
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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by David Knoles on Yesterday at 07:59:05 PM »
Lets discuss what Jn 6:44 says. Does any man have the ability to come to Christ?

Yes, after the father draws him by dying for all men. That's what I have been telling you.
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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by David Knoles on Yesterday at 07:57:34 PM »
No, that's a reformed interpretation.

How is it private interpretation when it says exactly that, "no man can come unless the Father draw him."

Yes, he will have all men drawn to himself, but only those who by free will come, will be saved.
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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by David Knoles on Yesterday at 07:56:15 PM »
David, you are deceived by your own doctrine of Free Will.  You believe that God allows us to come to him on our own free will because He doesn't want robots.


That's correct.
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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by aquatic on Yesterday at 07:50:26 PM »
Jesus says these words Jn 6:44

 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So Jesus own words declares this inability man has naturally to come to Him, Believe on Him.

No, that's a reformed interpretation. That verse merely shows that God is involved and must draw a person, but as He does the person must concurrently allow themselves to be drawn by their own free will. Else we have nothing but robots.

Thatís not in harmony with Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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Theology / Re: Mans inability to come to Christ
« Last post by savedbysovereigngrace99 on Yesterday at 06:50:48 PM »
Jesus says these words Jn 6:44

 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

So Jesus own words declares this inability man has naturally to come to Him, Believe on Him.

No, that's a reformed interpretation. That verse merely shows that God is involved and must draw a person, but as He does the person must concurrently allow themselves to be drawn by their own free will. Else we have nothing but robots.
Lets discuss what Jn 6:44 says. Does any man have the ability to come to Christ?
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