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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2006, 09:06:39 PM »

Signing off to go watch my favorite TV show; the final episode of "America's Next Top Model." God knows the motives of why I watch that and none of you know them.




Great, the Lord knows my heart so I think I'll spend the rest of the night watching Tyra Banks in Victoria secret because I like the pretty lace. What will we rationalize next.

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2006, 09:42:33 PM »

There is a lot of hullabaloo in the Church this week about The DaVinci Code, some saying that it has some merit and others saying that it is groundless. What do you all think of this subject? It seems to have some merit, but is it a biblical idea? What are your thoughts?


Kira's question was if "The Da Vinci Code" had merit or not.  I believe it doesn"t.  This is our Lord and Savoir we're talking about.  He's the King of kings and Lord of lords.  He isn't a fictional character.  Remember the big production in New York where Jesus was portrayed as being gay?  Would any of us see that?  Sure, it was also fictional, but where do we draw the line?  I understand what curious jack means by separating the Bible from fictional work.  I can clearly understand what he means, but I don't want to watch anything or partake of anything that is untrue about Jesus or anyone, especially for entertainment purposes.

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2006, 10:05:48 PM »
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Forgive me if anyone say my response to Matrix before I deleted it. We are getting way off subject on this thread. It is suppose to be about the movie The DaVinci Code.

Just shows we still live in these earthly bodies.   You know the verse, "...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her..." God bless you Lee, you'll not get a stone from me. ;)

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2006, 10:08:09 PM »
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Please tell me you are not going to define a "Real" Christian for us by determining what movies he can watch






           Hi Curious Jack,

             When I reacted to what you said, I never intended it to become so heated. I am sorry - I may have used inflammatory words. Please forgive me. I am not backing away from my own opinion concerning the DaVinci Code but I could have said this in a lot more loving manner. I am not a legalistic person at all and I would never judge a person's Christianity at all, and certainly not by the movies a person watches. It is not for me - another human, a sinner saved by the grace of God - to do any judging - it is for God to do that only. I do believe what Scripture says however....

    Matthew 12:33    "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them"  

And yet again it is not for me to judge -


   Luke 6: 41,42       "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considereth not the beam that is in thine own eye?   Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?   Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

     Do you see what I mean by this? I cannot judge you for saying you see nothing wrong with seeing the DaVinci Code and at the same time do so in a completely unloving manner. I do have a right to my opinion as do you , however I should have expressed mine differently. For that I am sorry...please forgive me.

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2006, 06:48:25 AM »
This is intended to represent a ganeric response to all who are interested in this thread: "The Davinci Code" is a WORK OF FICTION. Some seem to object to watching it, but others seem to object to being judged for watching it. That only demonstrates my point - We see that FICTION is used to determine "what is a Christian?" with equal authority as scripture.

I take offense at no remark made so far in the discussion. That however does not mean I agree with all conclusions expressed. I believe the scripture defines a Christian, when it is expressed as a noun, but it does not define Christianity, which is also a noun. But then again I do not consider the bible a book of definitions.

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2006, 08:34:08 AM »
That only demonstrates my point - We see that FICTION is used to determine "what is a Christian?" with equal authority as scripture.

Absolutely not!!  I do not put christian fiction on the same par as the Bible.  This only demonstrates that you tried to set us up to prove a stupid point that only you get!!!    I'm not interested in your teachings, perhaps you'd be better off to receive some instruction.

It's really pretty simple.  Does the DaVinCi Code have merit?  Hmmm, seeing that they portrayed Jesus as being married the answer is No!  Therefore, no need to watch it to show other mistakes they made to prove to people that it's only a work of fiction.  Does it mean that christians who refuse to watch it will not be prepared to answer questions and minister to others?  No, it means some christians have enough sense to not partake of it.


This is silly and I'm done with it!!

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2006, 08:53:22 AM »
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I believe the scripture defines a Christian, when it is expressed as a noun, but it does not define Christianity, which is also a noun. But then again I do not consider the bible a book of definitions

What are you trying to say exactly Curious-jack?  Too confusing.  And what?  The bible is NOT a book of definitions?  That is definitely wrong.  It is all about definitions, distinctions between right and wrong, and has the  "definition" of character of what a true Christian should be like, and that is like Christ Himself.  Are we reading the same Bible?   :o

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2006, 09:04:28 AM »
I believe the scripture defines a Christian, when it is expressed as a noun, but it does not define Christianity, which is also a noun. But then again I do not consider the bible a book of definitions.

   Curious Jack,

       Your statement contradicts itself...you say you believe the Bible defines a Christian but then you say the Bible is not a book of definitions. This statement is incongruous. Also, if its does define a Christian, and I do believe that it does, quite accurately, I mean how much more accurate can you get than God's Word?  Well then it follows that it also defines Christianity - the collective, active faith of all who profess Christ - reread your statement and you will see what you said.

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2006, 09:48:26 AM »
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The Davinci Code" is a WORK OF FICTION. Some seem to object to watching it, but others seem to object to being judged for watching it.
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Being judged for it? Well, there is being judged and then there is judgment. A Christian saying that God fearing people should not watch the Davinci code is no different from them saying that God fearing people should not watch pornography, or not look at a harlot to lust after her, or to not curse and swear. No different at all! Unlike most here, I believe that Christians should say what is right and what is wrong, and that saying it is not judging anyone unrighteously. Of course there are always going to be some who attempt to split hairs and claim this is different, yet logic dictates that saying Christians should not watch something, is the same principle. Anytime that a Christian says we should not be doing certain things (acting vain, stealing, loving riches, living a worldly life, watching pornography, gossiping, etc., etc.) someone is going to say they are judging. That's the nature of the beast (no pun intended). That mankind objects to any correction is also not new, nor is it news. That man would humbly accept correction, now that would be something special. But alas, that type of humility is as rare as gold, silver and precious stones.


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That only demonstrates my point - We see that FICTION is used to determine "what is a Christian?" with equal authority as scripture.
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The question is, determined by whom? Fiction doesn't determine what a Christian is to anyone but the reprobate. As Reformer said (and I agree), the Bible (a non-fiction book) determines what a Christian is, and what Christianity is. Else we have chaos and a peregrination of doctrine. Only a person born of the spirit that he walk in the spirit is a "TRUE" Christian. True love is manifested in our love of God, as defined by God, not by humanistic reasoning.

Romans 8:13-14
  • "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
  • For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
  • For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
  • The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:"

Here is the definition of a Christian, and how we know we are Christians. Without the witness of the spirit working within us, we are none of His. ...no matter how many times we call ourselves Christian. No, fiction is never used to determine who are Christians. A tree is known by its fruits.
 

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I believe the scripture defines a Christian, when it is expressed as a noun, but it does not define Christianity, which is also a noun.
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Excuse my French, but that's absurd! Defining a Christian by definition is defining Christianity. If the Bible defines a Christian, it has defined Christianity, which in short is "following the teachings of Christ!" i.e., the Jim Jones cult was not true Christianity, by definition!


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But then again I do not consider the bible a book of definitions.
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And that is not only your problem, but the problem of a great many "professing" Christians around the world. They don't look at the Bible as defining Christianity, therefore "all bets are off," and all ideas of behavior, doctrine and judgments are subject to personal opinion and private interpretation.

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2006, 08:27:23 AM »
As for your discursive comment that we are witnesses to Christ and not Christianity, we are witnesses to both.

1st Peter 2:12
  • "Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation."

Many people have been drawn to Christianity (become followers of Christ) by the holy spirit, through the witness of Christians. In case you didn't know, the definition of Christianity is "Followers of Christ!"

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2007, 03:24:59 AM »
The problem DAn brown based his ideas on other works that have been presented as History.

Lets not also forget that Satan will use any means he can, and many people read fiction and believe the so called 'facts' that is based upon. I actually think the method of presenting ones ideas through fiction is very cunning as it means you don't need to provide evidence in footnotes for the wacky ideas you present! for example wasn't there some woman a few months back selling her stories that she was a descendent of Jesus following on from this?

This is why we need to debunk the da vinci code, however there is little point in just disproving it, which is easily done, unless we go on to present the gospel.

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Re: The DaVinci Code
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2017, 11:31:26 AM »
This is intended to represent a ganeric response to all who are interested in this thread: "The Davinci Code" is a WORK OF FICTION. Some seem to object to watching it, but others seem to object to being judged for watching it.

As for the presumption of this thread, I think every Christian reading this already knows it's a work of fiction, but that is not the problem. The main problem is that millions do not know it is a work of fiction because the author says it is true. Yes, Christians have a problem with fiction being presented as truth, and rightly so. And you have a problem with us because of that? It is a fictional work against Christianity, and believers are supposed to be witnesses to truth. So of course we speak out against it. As for being judged for watching it, the only judgment I have read is our "opinions" that it is a waste of time for faithful stewards of the life God has provided us to watch such blasphemy. I agree with that judgment.

http://www.allaboutgod.com/common/printable-da-vinci-code-truth.htm


 


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